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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:07 pm to real turf fan
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:07 pm to real turf fan
I’ve not been able to follow the trial that closely.
Has anybody suggested a motive for the killings, assuming that it was Alec who actually killed his wife and child.
Has anybody suggested a motive for the killings, assuming that it was Alec who actually killed his wife and child.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 6:08 pm
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:36 pm to real turf fan
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And it wasn't the picture, it was the sound. That two young men both identified AM's voice AT the kennels with his wife and younger son. Contrary to all the statements AM had given earlier.
No doubt the prosecution won the afternoon. The defense has done a very decent job disputing all the other evidence but couldn’t dispute this. His voice killed his alibi because it proves he was at the kennels right before the murders. It will be interesting to see how this progresses.
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And the other Snapchat video: the one where the recipient remembered AL in long trousers and a shirt, totally not the t shirt and shorts, his outfit when he reported finding the bodies.
I think this could be huge also but I can see the defense coming back saying that he changed his clothes due to them being dirty from the ride with Paul or something else. A key thing to remember though is the one investigator stated that his clothes looked clean and dry when she interviewed him. She said it was odd because of how hot/humid and the on/off rain from that night.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:42 pm to redandright
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I’ve not been able to follow the trial that closely. Has anybody suggested a motive for the killings, assuming that it was Alec who actually killed his wife and child.
The State wants all of his financial crimes that was leading up to that point but the defense is trying to prevent it. The defense doesn’t want it because it makes sense and they don’t want the jury to be swayed with that motive. Defense kinda cracked the door this afternoon and the State was able to get a question about it in to one of the witnesses. Judge hasn’t ruled completely on it but it sounds like it will be decided as the trial goes on.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:53 pm to CobraCommander83
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Judge hasn’t ruled completely on it but it sounds like it will be decided as the trial goes on.
I honestly was shocked that the judge allowed the prosecutor to keep asking Paul's friend if he knew about financial information. It concerns me that it could open the door for an appeal if found guilty.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:00 pm to SOSFAN
Was it to distract from his financial crimes?
ETA Googled it, and looks as if that’s what the State is pushing. Going to be interesting. Takes one sick person to kill his own child.
ETA Googled it, and looks as if that’s what the State is pushing. Going to be interesting. Takes one sick person to kill his own child.
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:43 pm to redandright
Follow the Gucci
What was bought and for whom?
Which store: the one in Charlotte NC or the one in Charleston? If it was further afield, why?
There are some screen captures that have the Defense Attny Harpotlian looking as if he was just served a s**t sandwich. He's going to need to put on his kindly grandfather face some time.
What was bought and for whom?
Which store: the one in Charlotte NC or the one in Charleston? If it was further afield, why?
There are some screen captures that have the Defense Attny Harpotlian looking as if he was just served a s**t sandwich. He's going to need to put on his kindly grandfather face some time.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:58 pm to CobraCommander83
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His voice killed his alibi because it proves he was at the kennels right before the murders. It will be interesting to see how this progresses.
I think defense has to keep trying to push back the times of death somehow to even have a chance.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:59 pm to SOSFAN
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I honestly was shocked that the judge allowed the prosecutor to keep asking Paul's friend if he knew about financial information. It concerns me that it could open the door for an appeal if found guilty.
I agree. The State has to play this right. Waters said in his opening statement to pay attention to AM’s creditability. I think after this afternoon, AM’s creditability is gone. It showed he lied and his alibi is quickly losing credibility. I would love to know what was going through the jurors mind when this was played. The defense knows if his financial information is allowed, it will further diminish his credibility and show what a piece of shite he really is. The defense slighting the door on it today and Waters tried jumping with both feet in.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:03 pm to redandright
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I’ve not been able to follow the trial that closely.
Has anybody suggested a motive for the killings, assuming that it was Alec who actually killed his wife and child.
I wondered the same thing. The best answer I found was that the shite was about to hit the fan (regarding his white collar crime) and he thought the murder would buy him sympathy and time. It seems pretty preposterous, but I guess it's all we have. He did have ample reason to dislike both, with the kid's BUI and his marital struggles, but I think Harpinkiepie will harp on the lack of a motive pretty aggressively at some point.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:05 pm to Havoc
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I think defense has to keep trying to push back the times of death somehow to even have a chance.
I agree. The defense will be pushing hard. Before the trial, the time of death had a larger range but the cell phone data has really narrowed it down in my opinion. The defense will argue that the data is not a true and accurate representation. Poor said during the opening statements that they don’t have to prove anything but after yesterday and today, I think that narrative has changed course.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:10 pm to CobraCommander83
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:11 pm to CobraCommander83
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I think this could be huge also but I can see the defense coming back saying that he changed his clothes due to them being dirty from the ride with Paul or something else.
He conveniently left out the showering and/or changing into shorts and T-shirt in his statements to investigators. And he certainly didn’t volunteer the clothes he had changed out of.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:14 pm to real turf fan
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There are some screen captures that have the Defense Attny Harpotlian looking as if he was just served a s**t sandwich. He's going to need to put on his kindly grandfather face some time.
The expression and posture was completely different from him this afternoon. Up to this point, he has done a good job poking holes in the evidence and witnesses. This afternoon, the defense didn’t look strong and struggled at times trying to counter.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:20 pm to CobraCommander83
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The expression and posture was completely different from him this afternoon. Up to this point, he has done a good job poking holes in the evidence and witnesses. This afternoon, the defense didn’t look strong and struggled at times trying to counter.
Chatter on Twitter is Judge Newman doesn’t think very highly of Harpootlian. Also so many Twits and Redditors harping on ‘so many guns’ and the ‘poor [feral] hogs.’ A lot of people are really clueless about the South.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:31 pm to lachellie
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Chatter on Twitter is Judge Newman doesn’t think very highly of Harpootlian.
I know Judge Newman got on him a couple of times when Poot keeps repeating the same argument over and over. Newman knows what type of lawyer Poot is and he is not letting Poot take command of his courtroom.
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A lot of people are really clueless about the South.
I’ve seen some comments on twitter and you can quickly tell who is from the South and who is not.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:17 am to real turf fan
LINK
A link that puts the phone evidence of the murder night into place and time. And, at the same time, covers the relationships of Paul's two friends (both testified) and how well they knew the Murdaugh family.
And it mentions that the Bubba who was called was the Murdaugh family dog and that Alex Murdaugh was telling Bubba to drop the bird.
A link that puts the phone evidence of the murder night into place and time. And, at the same time, covers the relationships of Paul's two friends (both testified) and how well they knew the Murdaugh family.
And it mentions that the Bubba who was called was the Murdaugh family dog and that Alex Murdaugh was telling Bubba to drop the bird.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:54 am to real turf fan
Court TV’s website is posting some of the evidence and pictures from the crime scene. In one picture, you can see Maggie laying on the ground uncovered and Paul covered. It is not close or zoom in picture.
Exhibits
Exhibits
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:20 am to CobraCommander83
When he texts Maggie "call me babe" after he (presumably) knows she won't answer reminds me of a joke a podcaster/comedian tells. She says if you're murdering your spouse and you're sending text messages and leaving voicemails acting like you don't know where they are when you know they're dead, it shouldn't be "hey pookie/sweetie/lovie/baby, where are you? I made your favorite dinner. Call me soon, I'm worried. Love you." To make it more believable, you should be like "look mother fricker, where the frick are you? I've been with the fricking kids all day and you have the nerve to be late and not call? Your dinner's in the garbage, dick."
All of the testimony makes it seem like he really loved and enjoyed spending time with Paul. Did he just plan on killing Maggie and then whatever he planned regarding her death went awry and then he had to kill Paul too?
All of the testimony makes it seem like he really loved and enjoyed spending time with Paul. Did he just plan on killing Maggie and then whatever he planned regarding her death went awry and then he had to kill Paul too?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:28 am to ILurkThereforeIAm
Supposedly Paul was killed first
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:36 am to gravy553
There are so many contradictions in what AM told the police.
He said that the murders were done by someone to get even with Paul for the death of Mallory. Now we 'know' that Alex Murdaugh was at the kennel really close to the time when Paul AND his mother were killed, why the heck wouldn't the Murderer have also killed Alex Murdaugh? Daddy who bought the boat that lead to the dead of Mallory, who brought up the young man who BUI? Why wasn't he also a victim of gunshot wounds since shells seemed to be readily available?
He said that the murders were done by someone to get even with Paul for the death of Mallory. Now we 'know' that Alex Murdaugh was at the kennel really close to the time when Paul AND his mother were killed, why the heck wouldn't the Murderer have also killed Alex Murdaugh? Daddy who bought the boat that lead to the dead of Mallory, who brought up the young man who BUI? Why wasn't he also a victim of gunshot wounds since shells seemed to be readily available?
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