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Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:54 am to tigerinthebueche
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then why keep voting democratic?
Already brainwashed by those such as college professors, Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:58 am to Slippy
I didn't read the article.
But I gather that it pretty much says that we millenials suck and are nothing but drains on society and that this country is going to crash and burn as we get older?
But I gather that it pretty much says that we millenials suck and are nothing but drains on society and that this country is going to crash and burn as we get older?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:04 am to GetCocky11
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we millenials suck and are nothing but drains on society and that this country is going to crash and burn as we get older?
Isn't this essentially the standard line of thinking that each older, dying generation says? Like, going back to every era in history?
Kids these days are terrible, the sky is falling, the world is about to end, yadda yadda yadda.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:08 am to BS
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
Socrates
Socrates
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:10 am to Salmon
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Don't trust people or institutions.
Are cool with big government.
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not sure how these go together...
They want entitlements from big Govie & don't like people or institutions such as GM because they make them work.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:35 am to Buddy Garrity
I fail to see how the majority of that is a problem .. Bitching about the old ways is funny.. There old ways for a reason.. Time had passed you bye
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:50 am to Slippy
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Are not religious.
No, Catholic and I try to make mass as often as I can.
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Don't trust people or institutions.
Everyone has an agenda. So that depends.
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Vote Democratic but dislike political parties.
No, yes
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Are cool with big government.
Absolutely not.
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Support gay marriage and pot legalization
Yes and yes
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Are self indulgent and narcissistic.
No
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Are optimistic.
Yes. I think the majority of this revolves around self confidence.
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Are addicted to your technology.
No
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:07 pm to Darth_Vader
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the millennial generation is worse, far worse in fact.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:14 pm to Darth_Vader
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the millennial generation is worse, far worse in fact
...would have to agree with you Darth.. Go Gen X 
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:17 pm to Slippy
Are not religious.
Yes
Don't trust people or institutions.
Yes and No
Vote Democratic but dislike political parties.
Umm, hell no
Are cool with big government.
frick Government
Support gay marriage and pot legalization.
Yes and Yes
Are self indulgent and narcissistic.
Meh.
Are optimistic.
Meh.
Are addicted to your technology.
Most Definitely.
Yes
Don't trust people or institutions.
Yes and No
Vote Democratic but dislike political parties.
Umm, hell no
Are cool with big government.
frick Government
Support gay marriage and pot legalization.
Yes and Yes
Are self indulgent and narcissistic.
Meh.
Are optimistic.
Meh.
Are addicted to your technology.
Most Definitely.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:21 pm to Phil A Sheo
Generation Y is no better than Baby Boomers
Generation Y – they're probably no worse than baby-boomers
Besides, whatever you think, this iPhone-toting, skinny-jeaned demographic is pretty convinced it's something special – just like every other generation of young people before it
Name: Generation Y.
Age: Somewhere between 18 and 30.
Appearance: Skinny-jeaned, floppy-haired, massively entitled, whiny.
Hey, I'm somewhere between 18 and 30. Stop being rude. Don't blame me. I'm not an expert, I'm just saying what I see. People get paid a fortune to define the prevailing characteristics of each generation.
And what do those people say? In a nutshell: baby boomers are wealthy and selfish. Generation Xers are disappointed and cynical. And millennials – that's you – are whiny and entitled.
Hey, I said stop being so mean! See? Entitled.
But didn't baby boomers think that Generation X was entitled? And didn't the second world war generation think that baby boomers were entitled? Well, yes, I suppose so.
So all you're really saying is that everyone assumes that society peaked when they were a teenager, and that every subsequent generation is a horrible disappointment? Perhaps. But you're the first generation to call yourselves "digital natives", which is a horrible term.
That just means we know how to use smartphones. But you don't have to use them all the time. You don't have to tweet every meal you eat, or make Vines of every concert you go to, or Snapchat Instagrams of selfies and poke them at people on Facebook.
Do you actually know what you're talking about? You want the latest phone and you want the best job, even if you haven't earned it. You think you're special, even though it's painfully obvious to the rest of the world that you're just as mediocre as everyone else. Your life is a mess of unrealistic expectations.
Ah, I get it. You're jealous. Not at all. Science is on my side here. The University of New Hampshire did a study and found that all your impossible expectations make you horrible employees.
Wow, that's depressing. Can't you say anything to cheer me up? Well, I'm obviously not talking about you here. You're brilliant.
Really? I knew it! Just kidding. You're the worst.
Then how do I get better? You don't. In a couple of years, Generation Z will come of age. Then you'll have someone to pick on for being lazy and disappointing. Honestly, it's so much fun. You'll love it.
Do say: "Clearly none of this applies to me. I really am special."
Don't say: "But what comes after Generation Z?"
Generation Y – they're probably no worse than baby-boomers
Besides, whatever you think, this iPhone-toting, skinny-jeaned demographic is pretty convinced it's something special – just like every other generation of young people before it
Name: Generation Y.
Age: Somewhere between 18 and 30.
Appearance: Skinny-jeaned, floppy-haired, massively entitled, whiny.
Hey, I'm somewhere between 18 and 30. Stop being rude. Don't blame me. I'm not an expert, I'm just saying what I see. People get paid a fortune to define the prevailing characteristics of each generation.
And what do those people say? In a nutshell: baby boomers are wealthy and selfish. Generation Xers are disappointed and cynical. And millennials – that's you – are whiny and entitled.
Hey, I said stop being so mean! See? Entitled.
But didn't baby boomers think that Generation X was entitled? And didn't the second world war generation think that baby boomers were entitled? Well, yes, I suppose so.
So all you're really saying is that everyone assumes that society peaked when they were a teenager, and that every subsequent generation is a horrible disappointment? Perhaps. But you're the first generation to call yourselves "digital natives", which is a horrible term.
That just means we know how to use smartphones. But you don't have to use them all the time. You don't have to tweet every meal you eat, or make Vines of every concert you go to, or Snapchat Instagrams of selfies and poke them at people on Facebook.
Do you actually know what you're talking about? You want the latest phone and you want the best job, even if you haven't earned it. You think you're special, even though it's painfully obvious to the rest of the world that you're just as mediocre as everyone else. Your life is a mess of unrealistic expectations.
Ah, I get it. You're jealous. Not at all. Science is on my side here. The University of New Hampshire did a study and found that all your impossible expectations make you horrible employees.
Wow, that's depressing. Can't you say anything to cheer me up? Well, I'm obviously not talking about you here. You're brilliant.
Really? I knew it! Just kidding. You're the worst.
Then how do I get better? You don't. In a couple of years, Generation Z will come of age. Then you'll have someone to pick on for being lazy and disappointing. Honestly, it's so much fun. You'll love it.
Do say: "Clearly none of this applies to me. I really am special."
Don't say: "But what comes after Generation Z?"
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:31 pm to Slippy
As someone who works with college students on a weekly basis, I can say that in my experience, about half of these attributes are definitely accurate.
My take on millennials...
to preface, these are generalizations, and, of course, will not apply to every single one of them.
-Definitely addicted to technology...good lord they will not stop messing with their phones. I think a lot of people, regardless of age, are having trouble with putting their smartphones down, but 18-22 year-olds elevate distraction to an art form. There have been times where I've had to give one of them a nudge and a "are you kidding me?" look because they're messing with their phones while a highly respected professional is addressing them as a small group.
-Lack of soft skills like punctuality. I think this goes hand in hand with technology. Kids these days have so much information at their fingertips that they don't feel the need to honor commitments or prepare. Decide you don't want to meet someone anymore? No problem! Just send them a quick text "hey i had something come up. sorry :(". Even though email is still fairly new, email etiquette is disintegrating quickly because they all use social media to communicate. I was dumbfounded to learn that some students only check their email once a week. My response was "You know that when you get a job, your boss isn't going to send you assignments via Facebook right?"
-Cannot think critically. I think this is an indictment of No Child Left Behind and the rise of standardized testing. I joke to people that if I told one of my students to drive their car from one place to another and they ran out of gas on the way there, they would complain that I never told them they had to stop to fill up. They have a great deal of trouble getting from point A to point C without providing them with point B as a guide. They always want to know exactly what they need to do. Implied tasks don't exist anymore with this generation. I think schools are doing kids a disservice with all this standardized testing BS. Teachers just tell students exactly what they need to know for the tests. The student follow directions and study what the teachers tell them to.
My take on millennials...
to preface, these are generalizations, and, of course, will not apply to every single one of them.
-Definitely addicted to technology...good lord they will not stop messing with their phones. I think a lot of people, regardless of age, are having trouble with putting their smartphones down, but 18-22 year-olds elevate distraction to an art form. There have been times where I've had to give one of them a nudge and a "are you kidding me?" look because they're messing with their phones while a highly respected professional is addressing them as a small group.
-Lack of soft skills like punctuality. I think this goes hand in hand with technology. Kids these days have so much information at their fingertips that they don't feel the need to honor commitments or prepare. Decide you don't want to meet someone anymore? No problem! Just send them a quick text "hey i had something come up. sorry :(". Even though email is still fairly new, email etiquette is disintegrating quickly because they all use social media to communicate. I was dumbfounded to learn that some students only check their email once a week. My response was "You know that when you get a job, your boss isn't going to send you assignments via Facebook right?"
-Cannot think critically. I think this is an indictment of No Child Left Behind and the rise of standardized testing. I joke to people that if I told one of my students to drive their car from one place to another and they ran out of gas on the way there, they would complain that I never told them they had to stop to fill up. They have a great deal of trouble getting from point A to point C without providing them with point B as a guide. They always want to know exactly what they need to do. Implied tasks don't exist anymore with this generation. I think schools are doing kids a disservice with all this standardized testing BS. Teachers just tell students exactly what they need to know for the tests. The student follow directions and study what the teachers tell them to.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:32 pm to Slippy
I like the part about legalizing pot.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:35 pm to UGATiger26
I'm a boomer and nobody here likes me. 
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:37 pm to Slippy
Every generation thinks they're the best and the ones before and after them were Literally The Worst.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:43 pm to Slippy
Gen Xer but...
BTW...how ya' been, Slip?
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Are not religious. CHECK!
Don't trust people or institutions. Pretty Skeptical of both, check.
Vote Democratic but dislike political parties. Nah, Libertarian now but it's a shift from far right.
Are cool with big government. Nope.
Support gay marriage and pot legalization. Big check for both
Are self indulgent and narcissistic. Not really either of those.
Are optimistic. Genrally.
Are addicted to your technology. No...but I do enjoy that tech I use quite a bit
BTW...how ya' been, Slip?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:07 pm to UGATiger26
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-Definitely addicted to technology...good lord they will not stop messing with their phones. I think a lot of people, regardless of age, are having trouble with putting their smartphones down, but 18-22 year-olds elevate distraction to an art form. There have been times where I've had to give one of them a nudge and a "are you kidding me?" look because they're messing with their phones while a highly respected professional is addressing them as a small group.
-Lack of soft skills like punctuality. I think this goes hand in hand with technology. Kids these days have so much information at their fingertips that they don't feel the need to honor commitments or prepare. Decide you don't want to meet someone anymore? No problem! Just send them a quick text "hey i had something come up. sorry :(". Even though email is still fairly new, email etiquette is disintegrating quickly because they all use social media to communicate. I was dumbfounded to learn that some students only check their email once a week. My response was "You know that when you get a job, your boss isn't going to send you assignments via Facebook right?"
-Cannot think critically. I think this is an indictment of No Child Left Behind and the rise of standardized testing. I joke to people that if I told one of my students to drive their car from one place to another and they ran out of gas on the way there, they would complain that I never told them they had to stop to fill up. They have a great deal of trouble getting from point A to point C without providing them with point B as a guide. They always want to know exactly what they need to do. Implied tasks don't exist anymore with this generation. I think schools are doing kids a disservice with all this standardized testing BS. Teachers just tell students exactly what they need to know for the tests. The student follow directions and study what the teachers tell them to.
UGATiger26 gets it. I too reinforce that these are generalizations and do not apply to all. But as a College Professor, I can definitely agree with the third aspect. I do not think critical thinking is all but lost. However, no child left behind has taken it out of the classroom environment. Education is now unfortunately about rote learning and the end degree outweighs the means (education) of getting there. Students want a roadmap and do not understand that the true factor of an education is the ability to add something to knowledge and not just follow it.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:24 pm to fr33manator
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Maybe you old farts are just Luddites
Or maybe, when we observe the hordes transfixed by their little screens at the airport, restaurant or park, we see so many dialysis patients on some sort of gossamer life support.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:31 pm to Slippy
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Don't trust people or institutions. Vote Democratic but dislike political parties. Are cool with big government.
So millenials are stupid then.
Got it.
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