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interest rates on home mortgages wont fall anytime soon

Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:09 pm
how tf did this happen I had a family member buy a house at 2% less than 3 years ago
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3150 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:10 pm to
Did you see all those stickers on gas pumps a couple of years ago?

Start there
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
3983 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:11 pm to
Multitude of things.

Individuals having absolutely no accountability for their finances along with lax lending by the moron banks.

Ultimately both sides did the absolute worst that they could do (almost seems like on purpose) and here we are.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167141 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:12 pm to
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Did you see all those stickers on gas pumps a couple of years ago?

Start there


As much as I hate Biden, this isn't 100% his fault. Rates were too cheap for far too long. Cheap money is the main thing that has led us to people being in debt on everything they "own" and having wild credit card debt.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52925 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:15 pm to
It’s so unfair how boomers had like 0 interest rates and back in the 90s and 00s they even had “subprime” mortgages where the interest rate was less than 0 and they got paid to borrow money

What do the boomers do when millenials try to buy our first houses? They jack up the interest rates sky high
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22666 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:15 pm to
How does wild credit card debt come as a result of cheap money? Credit card interest rates are high always.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66380 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:17 pm to
I offered 10k over asking on a house 2 years ago and someone beat me. Seller tried pulling me into a bidding war and I said no. Was getting 2.75%

Now I'm still renting and rates are in the 7s. Disgusting
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 9:23 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29130 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:18 pm to
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It’s so unfair how boomers had like 0 interest rates
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:20 pm to
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How does wild credit card debt come as a result of cheap money? Credit card interest rates are high always.


Credit card interest rates go down when the rates go down, and go up when rates go up. If you read your CC terms and conditions it'll show a range for the interest rate, something like "APR 14.99%-24.99%"
Posted by TigerPaul
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2948 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:20 pm to
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It’s so unfair


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had like



God help us all
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52925 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:22 pm to
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As much as I hate Biden, this isn't 100% his fault

Yes it is

It’s the boomers fault too

Millenials used the power of the internet and memes to elect a millenial president for the first time. He didn’t have grey hair, his wife was hot instead of 50, he ate McDonald’s like us millenials, he drank a lot of cokes, he skipped work to go drink on the golf course. True millenial


Then 81 million boomers showed up to vote him out and elect another boomer president who immediately raised the interest rate so millenials can never own a house
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75163 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:23 pm to
Wonder what the market will look like if rates never go back down to 3% but stabilize around low to mid 5’s for quite some time.

Would we see an uptick in home sales or are people going to hold off in the hopes for low to mid 4s?
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16174 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:24 pm to
Gen X dealt with these types of rates as a norm in the 90's and 00's, including after 9/11. We survived.

Suck it up, entitled kiddos.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32394 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:25 pm to
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I offered 10k over asking on a house 2 years ago and someone beat me. Buyer tried pulling me into a bidding war and I said no. Was getting 2.75%

Now I'm still renting and rates are in the 7s. Disgusting

I know people who were putting off buying a house until they had 20% for the down payment. Now they are looking at both increased interest rates and home prices.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52925 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Now I'm still renting and rates are in the 7s. Disgusting

Yep

Boomers tell us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps but you can’t get bootstraps for less than 7% interest and all the boots are made in China because the boomers moved all the boot factories that we could’ve had good careers at to China
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
565 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

It’s so unfair how boomers had like 0 interest rates and back in the 90s and 00s they even had “subprime” mortgages where the interest rate was less than 0 and they got paid to borrow money

What do the boomers do when millenials try to buy our first houses? They jack up the interest rates sky high


And then 2008 happened. There's a reason why stuff like that doesn't fly anymore (at least I hope it doesn't).

And you act like interest rates weren't reasonable in recent history. I took at a mortgage in 2015 for 4.5%. Refinanced down to 2.5% in 2021.

The US got loose with money due to Covid stimulus and extended unemployment benefits. The bill has come due for all of that spending.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83529 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:28 pm to
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I know people who were putting off buying a house until they had 20% for the down payment. Now they are looking at both increased interest rates and home prices.



*raises hand

Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26455 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:28 pm to
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It’s so unfair how boomers had like 0 interest rates and back in the 90s and 00s



When I purchased my first house in ‘97 the APR was 7%… I’m a Gen Xer.

When my brother purchased his first house in 1981 the APR was 16%…
This post was edited on 7/25/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167141 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:29 pm to
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How does wild credit card debt come as a result of cheap money?



Fed Rate Hike Means Credit Card Holders And Other Borrowers Will Pay More

Also, CC companies are more likely to approve undeserving borrowers when rates are lower
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