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Indecent behavior with juveniles - Grooming

Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55255 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:53 am
Grooming

Last year, La. made "grooming" a criminal offense.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 9:54 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72410 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:53 am to
Yeah, definitely not clicking that one, baw.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32875 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:53 am to
This statute, in fact, exists, yes.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32875 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Yeah, definitely not clicking that one, baw.

At least for now, it’s just a link to the statute, but fair
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11622 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:57 am to
We’ve been watching the Chris Hansen Livingston Parish episodes. This is what those men are charged with.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55255 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:58 am to
It's the new La. criminal statute that criminalizes grooming. Grooming activities need not be sexual in nature in any way. Child molesters engage in campaigns of gaining trust in their targeted victims. These campaigns need not be sexual in nature.

The state of La. has taken a big step in protecting children by passing this criminal statute.

The statute itself is worth reading.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52541 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:01 am to
Are we trying to criminalize the priesthood?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32875 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:02 am to
quote:

the new La. criminal statute that criminalizes grooming. Grooming activities need not be sexual in nature in any way. Child molesters engage in campaigns of gaining trust in their targeted victims. These campaigns need not be sexual in nature. The state of La. has taken a big step in protecting children by passing this criminal statute. The statute itself is worth reading.

Sex still has to be the goal, though. I’m sure the new statute closes the loop on a few cases, but I imagine the overwhelming majority of new “grooming” cases could have already been prosecuted under our existing computer aided solicitation statute. Not a bad thing, but I’m not sure whether this is the major shift some people are saying it is.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33607 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:12 am to
Scared it might pertain to you?
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
3014 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:22 am to
1. Frankly, grooming is a vague word that seems pretty hard to prosecute (unlike something less more tangible like solicitation), and this is really just a law change to keep politicians the appearance of being tough on crime.

2. I’m not sure why you care that much about this unless you’re afraid that you’ll be one of the few people who’s actually arrested under the statute.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32875 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:24 am to
quote:

1. Frankly, grooming is a vague word that seems pretty hard to prosecute (unlike something less more tangible like solicitation), and this is really just a law change to keep politicians the appearance of being tough on crime. 2. I’m not sure why you care that much about this unless you’re afraid that you’ll be one of the few people who’s actually arrested under the statute.

They defined it pretty narrowly, which is why I don’t think it’s a big deal, as it has pretty significant overlap with our computer aided solicitation statute:
quote:

(1) "Grooming" shall mean the pursuit of an intimate relationship with a child under the age of seventeen by means of seduction, emotional manipulation, threats, promises, coercion, enticement, isolation, or extortion with the specific intent to commit a sex offense as defined in R.S. 15:541 against the minor, whether aggravated or not.

So unless you can prove specific intent to commit a sex offense, you can’t prove “grooming”.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:33 am to
This is intended so we don't have to wait for a child to be raped to get the offender locked up. In every child rape or molestation that we tried, we presented a ton of grooming evidence that showed it coming. There's evidence there. If you can prove it prior to a kid having his/her life ruined, that's a win.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32875 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:36 am to
quote:

This is intended so we don't have to wait for a child to be raped to get the offender locked up. In every child rape or molestation that we tried, we presented a ton of grooming evidence that showed it coming. There's evidence there. If you can prove it prior to a kid having his/her life ruined, that's a win.

Computer Aided Solicitation of a minor has been on the books since 2005. Again, I’m sure there will be a subset of offenses that will fit the new statute that wouldn’t have fit the old one, but the real world overlap is going to be pretty significant, in my opinion.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 10:42 am
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4701 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:53 am to
If this is not bad enough, get a load of this pervert that I met at a party last weekend. I asked what she did for a living, and she replied, " I'm a dog groomer". I shite you not. Gross.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24090 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Grooming activities need not be sexual in nature in any way.
quote:

The statute itself is worth reading.

You should probably read it yourself
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21887 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:30 pm to
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