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re: Increasing Levels of Teen Suicide

Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:22 am to
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15243 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:22 am to
i blame this fricking piece of shite

This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 12:23 am
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:49 am to
People need to look at the so called "friends" of these kids who commit suicide or talk about it.

Lately I've seen more and more kids get cajoled into depressions and suicidal ideations by some so called "friend" that their parents thought was benign. But in reality is a pathetic shite who is trying to derive joy from the 'power' of spreading misery.


Similar to that POS guy that murdered the woman out running and then joined the search crew and gave her mother a hug and told her it would be okay.


Pay attention to your kids and trust your gut. If you think something is off, it is.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 12:50 am
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13225 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:33 am to
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It's hard being a teen.

That's why i said earlier that parents and school administrators need to be in tune with students.


This means absolutely nothing. Hormones are hard. Wahh. Human history called, and wants to know why 15 year olds tried and often succeeded in finding ways to enlist in wars. What does "be in tune with the students" mean in practice?

Just understand them more? Feed them more rope? No, they're ignorant, which is precisely why they can't vote,or get tattoos until 18, and why they aren't supposed to drive until they're at least 16.

Of course they're not fully formed. That takes until the mid-20s for "people who were assigned XY chromosomes at conception." You didn't spend long enough talking to your great-grandparents (I'm guessing your age) about the depression, and shite like why I got a sweater and a jar of peanut butter for Christmas after I'd taken a bus halfway across the country from my grandparents.

When people are not fully formed, it's our duty, as the literal adults in the room, to lead them, and not just throw up our hands and give up. Number one job in any species is to ensure survival of our offspring.

As I posted, with references, in page one of this thread, social media is at the root. Bullies existed in 1955. It's not hard being a teen, they get phones given to them in junior high that cost more than everything I had to my name (inflation adjusted) as a senior in college. Stop making excuses and take ownership (I'm not attacking OP or the other unfortunate acquaintances of recent events, just you.)

Strict enforcement. LOL. Just a little bit of weed when you're 12 is fine, just four hours a day on TikTok are fine, it'll all be fine. Explain to me your theory on speeding tickets in Louisiana. I'm sure it's consistent reasoning.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36905 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 2:05 am to
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My daughter lost a classmate on Saturday to suicide. Kid was well liked, sports player and smart. It is scary what is going on in kids heads to make them think the only way out is death. He was 15. Terribly sad.


My friend's daughter spent time with him Saturday during the day. As you would expect, she is having a very hard time processing this, especially the guilt that she feels wondering if she could have done something to prevent it...which in all likelihood there was nothing she could have done.

As someone who has experienced a bout with mental illness, brain chemicals are a delicate thing. When they get out of whack, the brain can go to dark places. Thankfully I got back on track after about 6 months of experimenting with a shrink to find the right meds and never had more than fleeting thoughts of suicide--like it popped into my head and I was like "ok this is ridiculous" and quickly moved away from it.

But it scared the shite out of me and made me realize how lucky I was that I wasn't in worse shape, and it gave me perspective on how people can get to such a bad place that they don't want to go to--but their brian takes them their anyway.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61360 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 5:54 am to
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Make God the center of your life.



That really is what’s truly missing. It’s the hole in ourselves that we try and fill with everything but God and it is never filled, leaving us empty and always wanting, because nothing else really ever fills that void as it was meant for Him from our very creation as a human being when we were born.

Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:04 am to
Can’t imagine. Last night me and the boys did 2 sets of pitching and fished afterwards until dinner. I think this used to be normal, now I think it’s probably looked at as backwards. You have to push the other way against everything going on.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36595 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:14 am to
get kids off the screen is biggest thing. they need to feel like home is a place to get away from the pressures of school and society. Also when it comes to screen time, have your kid leave the devices in living room away from them at night, starting at 9, no later. this gives them time to have proper sleep hygeine and to get a full 8 hours of sleep. This shite sounds trivial but it isnt.

if you kid plays sports at high level, also understand they dont need to be coached at home. they need a place to escape that. i push hard training, but there are times kids just need to be kids. let them play with the neighborhood kids and go ride bikes, go fishing etc


teach your kid gun safety also even if you dont have them in the home. its important.


#1 thing though besides screentime is get your kid exercising. If he is a boy, get them into lifting weights, even if you were not into it. Its important from brain function standpoint to exercise and being strong and having a proper body image is big for teens. This goes for girls too, get them into lifting, its fricking important, way more than you think.

no surprise that as obesity rates rise in teens, the suicide rates rise too. same goes for screen time. I know its coorlation but there are plenty of studies that show what these things do to the developing brain.

Posted by GuidoVestieri
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2021
941 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:24 am to
He was a good kid from an excellent family. Prayers for the family and especially the youngest who was there. Both of my boys know theirs and goto school with them.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33690 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:24 am to
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It’s rocked Baton Rouge quite a bit over the last few months. It’s crazy to think that kids view it as a way out. The influence of social media is 1000% at fault for this
or is it parents not actually talking to their kids and realizing what is really going on in their lives.
Posted by GuidoVestieri
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2021
941 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:28 am to
My freshman didn't want to talk about it yesterday. He got up at 9;30, 10:30,and finally at 11:30 last night. I finally sat him down at that point and discussed it. I know the kid played football and min does cross country ad track. Mine just discussed all of the pressure from sports and school. He also told me about a certain group there that is full of bullies. It was a good talk. Glad he got it off his chest.
Posted by GuidoVestieri
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2021
941 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:29 am to
I printed that PDF and it's sitting on my desk. looked at it and realized I didn't need it.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14836 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:31 am to
Cell phones and social media are in my opinion the main factors. Kids are ruthless to each other when they don't have to say things to the other kids'faces. If they deal with a mean kid at school the kid is also being mean to them on social media at home. There's no break. Now instead of breaking up fights or stopping bullying other kids just want to film it.

I talk to my students all the time about being nice to each other. Being mean actually takes effort, and all it does is make both people feel bad.

Now you've got kids posting emotions; videos of them crying and all that to get sympathy from their online fake friends. It's very creepy and weird.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33690 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:36 am to
quote:

He was a good kid from an excellent family. Prayers for the family and especially the youngest who was there. Both of my boys know theirs and goto school with them.
Yeah, I was kinda shocked by this one, seemed like he had it pretty together too.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295146 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:41 am to
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When people are not fully formed, it's our duty, as the literal adults in the room, to lead them, and not just throw up our hands and give up. Number one job in any species is to ensure survival of our offspring.


One of my best friends had a son who shot himeself when his parents were in the home.

Both parents had to reconstruct what happened because they weren't involved enough to know. The kid was in his room most of the time and they didn't know if it was drugs or a girl. It was a girl. A mundane teen breakup resulted in tragedy.
Posted by purpleblackandgold
BR
Member since Aug 2007
109 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:55 am to
I have now heard of 3 teenage boys in the last 6 weeks in the south BR and Ascension area. Something has to change.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50614 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:01 am to
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Yeah, I was kinda shocked by this one, seemed like he had it pretty together too.


I didn't know the kid or family but he seemed to be well involved in school and pretty smart (from what my daughter said). She runs in a different circle than he did but it still effects everyone. It did seem like a quick decision for him when he did it and he was actually in surgery when he passed.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106072 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:08 am to
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Something has to change.


Until passive parents are willing to admit they can be part of the problem, it’s not going to.

Social media is a huge chunk of that piece but who allows kids almost unfettered access to social media? Parents.

Don’t be afraid to limit your kid’s access to social media and screens in general. Kids need to learn how to be bored again. They need to learn how to be able to step away from things like social media before it becomes unhealthy.

People are absolutely terrified of telling their kids no and it’s become a real epidemic.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 9:10 am
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50614 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:11 am to
I am so glad my kid is gonna be a busy bee this summer. Less time on the damn phone and that's a good thing. You can tell when she hasn't been glued to the phone. Her mood changes and she is more talkative. I get she is a teen and hanging with her parents isn't cool.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9542 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:56 am to
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They aren’t necessarily taught that their lives not only have meaning, but have a spark of divinity in them.


Eh. This is a stretch. We are basically monkeys in shoes. Life is as meaningful as you make it. We aren't special or unique. Enjoy your time but don't take it too seriously.

quote:

There is a higher purpose to all life, there is a greater purpose than just being plopped down here.


Meh. The universe existed before you were born and will continue when you are gone. Life is only as special as you make it.

quote:

I posit that if more kids were Christ centered, we’d have fewer studies like these.


Not really and only because religion and Christianity has molded and reformed to the moors and morality of the day.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64981 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:03 am to
1) social media
2) immature parents who treat their kids like friends
3) consistent outside messaging of negativity and instability in the world
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