- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:38 am to Gravitiger
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:38 am to Gravitiger
quote:
but not anyone else.
Then how do you get past the “any person” definition in The department shall not deny any person a driver's license or a renewal if that person has not obtained a government-issued social security number based on Section 7 of Pub. L. 93-579 Section (a)(1).
Does that refer to any person that is a “alien individual”? Or, does it truly apply to any person.
If it only applies to alien individuals then why does it reference federal law, which specifically says denying him would be illegal?
2
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:38 am to VABuckeye
to expound on that, while I also had poor financial discipline I also had low income for a long time…living check to check and frequently underwater. I would have spent those funds I can assure you because I would have needed them.
but I survived without them. And as I noted earlier I do the exact same thing “to” my employees every year…we force them to invest in the SEP and it is to their benefit that we do so
This isn’t that difficult and I would recommend anyone that feels like SS is some kind of scam to talk to retired people and ask them how they feel about it now
but I survived without them. And as I noted earlier I do the exact same thing “to” my employees every year…we force them to invest in the SEP and it is to their benefit that we do so
This isn’t that difficult and I would recommend anyone that feels like SS is some kind of scam to talk to retired people and ask them how they feel about it now
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:39 am to eitek1
quote:
Right?
Wrong.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:42 am to eitek1
After reading the this topic and the motorcycle theft thread, I admire your work ethic, strong will and dillagence when working on something that you are passionate about. We are cut from the same cloth as nothing makes me more angry than when someone is pissing on me and telling me it's raining. It seems like you are trying to transfer the values that your father taught you to your son, and I respect that. Good on you.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:43 am to eitek1
Assuming you win and for the third time-
what consequence are you sparing your son from by not having a SS# where he already has a passport and license?
What is the benefit or advantage of not having a SS#?
what consequence are you sparing your son from by not having a SS# where he already has a passport and license?
What is the benefit or advantage of not having a SS#?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:44 am to eitek1
quote:
It’s not like that anymore. I got it changed, by myself when other folks said they couldn’t. Was it easier to just pay the 10 bucks. Sure it was. The principle of the matter wouldn’t let me.
I wish I had this much spare time
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:49 am to WDE24
quote:
He didn’t answer my question - what consequence does he spare his son from by not having a SS# where he already has a passport and license? What is the benefit or advantage of not having arse#?
There is no consequence I’m sparing him from. When he’s 18, he will likely go get a social security card. He just doesn’t have to have one today. There is no requirement.
You don’t, and shouldn’t need permission from the federal government to carry out your life. It’s a freedom thing. I realize at some point he will likely have to get one. When that time comes, so be it.
I this is just the DMV making someone jump through some arbitrary and unrelated hoop to check some box on a government form.
I have the ability and the resources to push back, so I am. Every single time in my life someone has said to me “or else”, I’ve done this. I’ve been kind and friendly to everyone along the way but, we’re going to win.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:51 am to eitek1
I was replying to your argument that the SSN requirement is not mentioned anywhere else in s32.409.1. Subsection (2)(d)(vi), which I was referring to, does not provide any exception for non-aliens.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:52 am to eitek1
quote:
I'm not signing my son up for a federal investment program that offers horrible returns that he can't opt out of, ever.
You son will 100% have to pay into SS. Withholding taxes are non negotiable.
He may not ever want to collect the money he is entitled to at retirement but he will pay into it, and whoever he works for will match his payments.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:55 am to kciDAtaE
quote:
I wish I had this much spare time
You make time for the things that matter. I work a full time job, I’m starting a separate business and I’m in the middle remodeling a house, while I’m doing this.
In the case of the Inspection sticker thing, I invested probably 6 hours. Once I “planted my flag”, it was resolved in less than 24 hours. In that case it was yet another person that said “these are the rules”. It was fine and dandy until I said “prove it” and they couldn’t.
My actions may seem stupid, but I’ve probably saved the folks around there collectively 100k in unnecessary charges for some random box to be checked.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:56 am to eitek1
quote:So you are ok with the government having restrictions on driving, but you draw the line at them requiring an arbitrary number that is free and comes with no consequences as one of those restrictions.
You don’t, and shouldn’t need permission from the federal government to carry out your life. It’s a freedom thing.
I find that strange, but I hope you are successful. More importantly, I hope your son is spared of any consequences of your personal vendettas on his behalf.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:57 am to Gravitiger
quote:
I was replying to your argument that the SSN requirement is not mentioned anywhere else in s32.409.1. Subsection (2)(d)(vi), which I was referring to, does not provide any exception for non-aliens.
So your opinion is that “any person” in this context only applies to alien individuals?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:57 am to eitek1
I'm not saying I don't want a SS #, I just want a new one. A little fresh start so to speak. Is that too much to ask? LOL
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:00 am to eitek1
quote:No, my opinion is that the statute is inherently contradictory and ambiguous.
So your opinion is that “any person” in this context only applies to alien individuals?
Section 7 of Pub. L. 93-579 Section (a)(1) does not specifically refer to those who fail to obtain a SSN, but only those who have one and refuse to disclose it.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:00 am to WDE24
quote:
I find that strange, but I hope you are successful. More importantly, I hope your son is spared of any consequences of your personal vendettas on his behalf.
Out of curiosity, what could you envision as a consequence? I’ve not even taken a harsh tone with anyone. I’ve always had a smile on my face and have been kind to everyone.
It’s not a vendetta, it’s a request that the state follows the law. That’s it. I should reasonably expect that, shouldn’t I?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:01 am to Gravitiger
quote:
No, my opinion is that the statute is inherently contradictory and ambiguous
You and I are in perfect agreement.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:03 am to eitek1
Except that, strictly construed, Section 7 of Pub. L. 93-579 Section (a)(1) does not specifically refer to those who do not have a SSN, but only those who have one and refuse to disclose it.
The LA code refers specifically to those who do not have a SSN but references a federal law that doesn't specifically mention those who don't have a SSN.
There is also the question of whether a TIP is a "license" to operate a vehicle on Louisiana highways, or merely a "permit." When the legislature uses different words, the court will usually assume they did so for a reason.
The LA code refers specifically to those who do not have a SSN but references a federal law that doesn't specifically mention those who don't have a SSN.
There is also the question of whether a TIP is a "license" to operate a vehicle on Louisiana highways, or merely a "permit." When the legislature uses different words, the court will usually assume they did so for a reason.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:06 am to eitek1
I paid the omv $600 for an insurance quote. Then found out I didn't have insurance on one of my bikes for a few weeks. So now that's likely another $600.
If every omv worker got arse cancer I wouldn't shed a tear.
If every omv worker got arse cancer I wouldn't shed a tear.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:07 am to eitek1
quote:A significant delay in becoming licensed and the loss of learning to drive and develop independence at the same age as his peers.
Out of curiosity, what could you envision as a consequence?
A delay in getting a job or lost opportunities as a result of the delay.
I mean, hopefully nothing blows back on him.
quote:
It’s not a vendetta
Isn’t it?
I’m pulling for you though. I’m in favor of less bureaucracy. I’m just not sure this is the hill that makes sense to die on.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 10:22 am to Napoleon
quote:
I paid the omv $600 for an insurance quote. Then found out I didn't have insurance on one of my bikes for a few weeks. So now that's likely another $600.
If every omv worker got arse cancer I wouldn't shed a tear.
You will like this one....
I asked my son what kind of car he wanted to drive when he got his license. I found what he wanted out of state, got it for a great price but it had a bad motor and we had to rebuild it.
I went to get it transferred at the DMV. They said "the full value of the car is like 11k and were going to charge me taxes on that. They said "these are the rules". I told them it was a non running vehicle and they said it didn't matter. I left to do some research.
I found this DMV Policy.
It says the value can be derived from one of three places.
Road Use Tax –
• Road Use Tax will be assessed on the value of the vehicle. One of the following valuation tools
must be used and the lowest value obtained from one of the acceptable sources should be
used.
o JD Power Average Trade
o Original Invoice
o Trade Evaluation from a dealership
I went and got a trade evaluation on a dealership for the actual worth of a non-running car in about 30 minutes.
I went back up there and handed them the trade in offer and said I'll be paying taxes on this amount. They scratched their head and then looked up the policy and then processed the paperwork. They had never heard of that before and they worked at the DMV.
I saved several hundred dollars with about an hour and a half worth of effort.
Page 10 of 34
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News