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re: I'm not crazy, you're crazy - Borderline Personality Disorder

Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5144 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:28 pm to
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It's a serious disorder but the severity of it varies greatly and more importantly it's entirely treatable with therapy and or meds. The serious problem is if the person is in denial and refusing to get care which is often the case. Ignore the anecdotal hyperbole of some of these morons.

Many therapists might very much disagree with this.

Edit: BPD can be in many cases a serious personality disorder.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 4:32 pm
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:33 pm to
Most Borderlines don't make it to a 2nd or 3rd appt with their therapist.

They can't handle taking responsibility or even understanding they are at fault. It's foreign to their lives.

They've spent their entire life manipulating, turning the tables, blaming others, flat out lying....

Treatment is almost impossible because of this basic point - people get better when they understand there is a problem and WANT help.

Borderline's don't function that way.

Posted by B2 Bomber
Member since Sep 2016
305 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:10 pm to
Does anyone have experience or insight into how this affects mood around menstruation? I’ve had an experience in the past that seems similar to some of these post but faired up around the time she was going to start her period.

She would bring up PMDD but it sounds like it is rare to have both.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1091 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:19 pm to
Btw, marriedredpill on reddit is a treasure trove of material. Definitely do the sidebar of content first.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25853 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:45 pm to
This thread was definitely an eye opener. Hope everyone is able to remove themselves for these situations and find happiness. It also makes me really appreciate my marriage.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1091 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:33 pm to
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This thread was definitely an eye opener. Hope everyone is able to remove themselves for these situations and find happiness. It also makes me really appreciate my marriage


Definitely a lot more common than you'd think. We really should be better preparing our kids to identify whackos b4 they marry.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45850 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:35 pm to
Dealing with someone who has bpd just sucks the life out of you. Anytime they enter a room, it seems as if all the energy is being sucked up.

<—— masters of counseling… I HATE dealing with bpd.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 11:36 pm
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1091 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:40 am to
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<—— masters of counseling… I HATE dealing with bpd.


What type of nurture creates a child who develops BPD? What can a father do to prevent it?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5144 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:58 am to
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Be aware that most BPDs become incredibly vindictive during because of their abandonment issues. You leaving them is the ultimate betrayal and they will normally punish you for it.

When I broke up with her (BPD) she said I betrayed her. I thought "wow". I broke up with you, did not betray anyone.
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
Member since Nov 2007
823 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:20 am to
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Most Borderlines don't make it to a 2nd or 3rd appt with their therapist.

They can't handle taking responsibility or even understanding they are at fault. It's foreign to their lives.

They've spent their entire life manipulating, turning the tables, blaming others, flat out lying....

Treatment is almost impossible because of this basic point - people get better when they understand there is a problem and WANT help.

Borderline's don't function that way.



Spot on!!! Me and my ex saw many therapists. As soon as the therapist suggested my ex may be the issue, we would leave that doctor and go find someone else.
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
Member since Nov 2007
823 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:24 am to
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What type of nurture creates a child who develops BPD? What can a father do to prevent it?


I'm no doctor, but I try to teach my kids personal accountability. You revolve around the world; the world doesn't revolve around you.

My ex was always playing the blame game. Never took responsibility for any of her actions.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
50874 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:43 am to
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Dealing with someone who has bpd just sucks the life out of you. Anytime they enter a room, it seems as if all the energy is being sucked up.
This is an extremely accurate way to put it.
Posted by DecadePlusLurker
Member since Sep 2016
539 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:56 am to
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What type of nurture creates a child who develops BPD? What can a father do to prevent it?



I'm no doctor either, but my understanding of BPD is that it is caused by never feeling good enough for a parent's love, or by living in fear of abandonment from one or both parents.

Just having a loving, consistent relationship with your daughter from a young age should be enough.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29553 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:09 am to
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quote:Do crazy people know they're crazy?

Some do, some don't.


A friend of mine was a top cardiovascular surgeon and one of the most brilliant people I’ve ever met that was diagnosed w/ BPD and Schizophrenia. Thought the government was out to get him and his wife was trying to kill him by poisoning him. He got all the way through med school, residency, and became a surgeon before it hit him around 35.

He was very lucid and knew what was happening most of the time. He said “I’m very aware that this is all insanity and none of it is true. I have a wonderful life and wife and daughter. I just simply can’t beat this.”

Took his own life to save his wife and daughter the trouble of it all. Incredibly sad.
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
Member since Nov 2007
823 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:20 am to
After 2 or 3 visits, our marriage counselor, who was obviously a proponent of marriage, was calling me telling me I needed to get out.

Hell, he even had to call the law on my ex several times for harrassment.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1091 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:10 pm to
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I'm no doctor either, but my understanding of BPD is that it is caused by never feeling good enough for a parent's love, or by living in fear of abandonment from one or both parents.


I read once a long time ago that a broken home will cause dad issues with a daughter regardless of how good or bad of a dad you are. Well, with that and what you wrote, the zone flooding of BPDs we observe is pretty well explained.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8980 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:16 pm to
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Most Borderlines don't make it to a 2nd or 3rd appt with their therapist


Happened with me and my ex. I cannot remember once in our 20 years she ever admitted to being wrong. No matter how small the issue was
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
50874 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:18 pm to
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After 2 or 3 visits, our marriage counselor, who was obviously a proponent of marriage, was calling me telling me I needed to get out.
even my pastor agreed, the BPD/NPD spouse can be very destructive
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1091 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:00 pm to
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I cannot remember once in our 20 years she ever admitted to being wrong. No matter how small the issue was


I asked one to tell me once in her whole life that she was wrong about something, anything. Eyes diverted, topic diverted, then I asked again. Cycle repeated 3 times. Never admitted any type of error ever.
Posted by awvidrine
Member since Sep 2015
76 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:07 pm to
Fact! I was married to someone who would start fights and then spin it around to me. I did start second guessing myself and wondering if I was going crazy, to the point I even asked for us to go to therapy. He wouldn’t go, so I did. The therapist said he was gaslighting and of course he would see no need for therapy.
People like that are mentally abusive and will wear you down. Get out and fast!
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