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re: I'm convinced education's steep decline began and continues today for 3 main reasons!

Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:56 am to
God has ZERO to do with it
Posted by low end
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:57 am to
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Primary education funding has kept up with inflation and surpassed it in some areas


Some areas have great education systems, some don't. Applying a blanket statement for things happening in this country is rarely an accurate exercise.

I bet if you were to drill down into the data, funding would have some correlation with education levels.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14152 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:57 am to
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Cellphones


It fascinates me how the youth are getting dumber with the entire world in their hands to learn.

The amount of information out there to read and soak in is incredible yet they focus on things that will not benefit them down the road and they know this.

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22390 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:57 am to
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God shouldn’t be in a public classroom


It’s not God, as much as morals, which originated and is mostly based on God and religion. Poor kids and kids that’s grow up without a normal family unit generally lack a good moral foundation and that means teaching them anything they don’t want to do is extremely difficult.
Posted by Worldly Bum
Member since Jun 2024
223 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:59 am to
A bunch of former sorostitutes turned middle aged Karens with made up post grad degrees are in near complete control of school administrative positions.

We don't have enough male teachers in our schools. Most won't like this but I'd be willing to take pay away from female teachers to pay male teachers more to lure more men into the profession.
Posted by TigersBucs
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
1723 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:59 am to
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1. Removal of God from the classroom - sadly, these days you even mention God in the classroom, you could get written up, fired, or some radical group might show up outside your school protesting.


Oh please, they do not to be indoctrinated in schools. The parents do that enough..
Posted by Worldly Bum
Member since Jun 2024
223 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:01 am to
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God has ZERO to do with it


Yeah it does. Organized religion incentivizes people to act within an acceptable social framework. Your opinions on whether he's real or not are irrelevant.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
3960 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:01 am to
I think the issue is overly-permissive structures that don't teach accountability. They're well-intentioned, but not scaffolded correctly
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 10:02 am
Posted by Worldly Bum
Member since Jun 2024
223 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:02 am to
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Oh please, they do not to be indoctrinated in schools. The parents do that enough..


The parents don't do it enough, which is the problem.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117274 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:02 am to
The answer is the implementation of The Department of Education. Anything the federal government touches turns to shite. Once money flows there is no stopping the outcome.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57941 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:02 am to
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shrinking budgets
do you see the price per kid in public schools compared tot private?

Its not about the money.
Posted by Worldly Bum
Member since Jun 2024
223 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:03 am to
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do you see the price per kid in public schools compared tot private


Is there a link? I'd love to see that
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31919 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:03 am to
It's all about poor parenting and shitty kids.

People have been educated in one-room schoolhouses and/or tiny rural schools with little infrastructure and gone on to become presidents, engineers, astronauts, etc.

If people want to be educated and are held accountable at home, all the other bullshite is irrelevant.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:04 am to
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It’s not God, as much as morals, which originated and is mostly based on God and religion. Poor kids and kids that’s grow up without a normal family unit generally lack a good moral foundation and that means teaching them anything they don’t want to do is extremely difficult.


I don’t disagree with you. My point was simply that God should not be in a public school.

Morals and respect should be taught at home but it isn’t and it shows.
Posted by Babu
Member since Sep 2023
22 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:04 am to
The main reason is increasing academic expectations coupled with decreasing accountability to meet these expectations.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31919 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:04 am to
The worst school systems spend the most per child. I believe DC schools spend the most.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74880 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:06 am to
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The main reason is increasing academic expectations coupled with decreasing accountability to meet these expectations.
Where has there been “increasing academic expectations”?

I would contend it has been the opposite.

Everything from reading to grammar to math to all of the social sciences has shown decreased expectations.
Posted by Worldly Bum
Member since Jun 2024
223 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:06 am to
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The worst school systems spend the most per child. I believe DC schools spend the most


I believe you. I'd just like to see that data so I can through it my Uber liberal teacher friend's face and make her cry a little bit.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8012 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:07 am to
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The real culprit is the deterioration of the family structure which leads to a parent that doesn't give a shite, so school is more of a daycare to get the brat out of the house for the day than a learning environment. You're with your kids twice as much as a teacher is, they learn from you.


Naw.. Just make that Bullet point 4
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