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re: I’m about tired of the smoking bans in bars
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:48 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:48 pm to fightin tigers
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The owners wanted the ban, the workers wanted the ban, most of the patrons wanted the ban.
there is LITERALLY no reason why a government mandate was needed, then
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:51 pm to Sentrius
Claiming to be for private property rights but against allowing smoking on barsid like claiming to be a militant atheist, except for that believing in God thing....
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:55 pm to Sentrius
quote:So screw private property rights!!! My eyes burn.
Mere smoking makes you stink to others and makes them cough too much and get watery eyes.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:56 pm to puse01
you don't even have to get all libertarian about it, assuming their assertions are true. just go non-smoking on your own
again, if Lake Charles can provide multiple non-smoking options, then there is no reason Nola/BR can't
again, if Lake Charles can provide multiple non-smoking options, then there is no reason Nola/BR can't
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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again, if Lake Charles can provide multiple non-smoking options, then there is no reason Nola/BR can't
There were plenty of options before they banned it. Smoking in restaurants has basically been non existent since the 90s. Bars like Ivars were non smoking years before we made laws about it.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there is LITERALLY no reason why a government mandate was needed, then
WE'RE POWERLESS TO STOP SMOKING IN OUR BUILDINGS WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT FORCING US TO!
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:05 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
but seriously, frick anyone who purposefully inhales trash into their lungs and clouds up a public area with the shite
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:07 pm to Sentrius
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That's why we have elections to vote for politicians who want to do that the things we want them to do.
And if you're on the losing end of that election, you have to live with the consequences of that result and then you're free to challenge that result in the next election.
That is literally the current reality in America. No amount of arguing on message boards will change that.
We have elections so we can use the government to take more control over people but in our own way? Interesting take.
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I'm a guy who thinks the welfare state should be cut as much as we possibly can but not too much as we need to leave some to bribe the poors to pipe down and stay quiet so they don't rise against the middle and upper classes and put a real fascist into office.
While you cede power to the government at every turn then say you're scared of "real fascists".
It's fricking clown world.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:13 pm to upgrayedd
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We have elections so we can use the government to take more control over people but in our own way?
That's literally the reality in America right now dude.
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While you cede power to the government at every turn then say you're scared of "real fascists".
It's literally happening now.
Look at Venezuela and Iran where the dictatorships have strong opposition from the middle and upper classes but they're heavily backed and strongly propped up by the poor who vastly outnumber the middle and upper classes because they were promised a lot of "free" goodies.
It's why we will never ever truly eliminate welfare as its a bribe to keep them quiet.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:20 pm to Sentrius
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That's literally the reality in America right now dude.
Not really.
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It's literally happening now.
Look at Venezuela and Iran where the dictatorships have strong opposition from the middle and upper classes but they're heavily backed and strongly propped up by the poor who vastly outnumber the middle and upper classes because they were promised a lot of "free" goodies.
It's why we will never ever truly eliminate welfare as its a bribe to keep them quiet.
Yet you're willing to keep consolidating power at the top making it easier for these people to take over.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:20 pm to MojoGuyPan
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there is LITERALLY no reason why a government mandate was needed, then
The reason given was that they didn't want to alienate a small part of their clientele and lose it. Margins being super tight I would imagine.
Owners want it, but can't afford to do it. If everyone is on the same playing field no one has go suffer for being wrong.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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again, if Lake Charles can provide multiple non-smoking options, then there is no reason Nola/BR can't
New Orleans had non smoking options.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:26 pm to upgrayedd
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WE'RE POWERLESS TO STOP SMOKING IN OUR BUILDINGS WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT FORCING US TO!
Or just make the government the scapegoat.
I'm fine with that.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:30 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Youre making the case for the free market all by yourself
The owners wanted the ban, the workers wanted the ban, most of the patrons wanted the ban.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:31 pm to fightin tigers
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The reason given was that they didn't want to alienate a small part of their clientele and lose it. Margins being super tight I would imagine.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:32 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Youre making the case for the free market all by yourself
With tight margins you don't have the ability to alienate 20% or your clientele.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:33 pm to fightin tigers
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Or just make the government the scapegoat.
I'm fine with that.
That's because you're too much of a pussy to handle life on your own like those people. I bet you're one of those people that claim to hate crony capitalism as well.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:33 pm to fightin tigers
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With tight margins you don't have the ability to alienate 20% or your clientele.
So don't do it.
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