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re: I’m about tired of the smoking bans in bars
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:39 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:39 pm to Sentrius
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You're the one that's calling support of a public health campaign against self destructive behavior in smoking "selfish".
I've disabled the airbags in my vehicles and refuse to wear a seatbelt, while I'm driving around with a beer in one hand and texting with the other
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:39 pm to Sentrius
quote:Nice packaging
public health campaign
I mean we both know it’s bullshite but it sure sounds good to women
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I agree. I don’t even smoke anymore and haven’t for almost 7 years. But it doesn’t bother me at all if someone else is in a bar. And the way I see it you can move if it does. Now anywhere there may be kids such as restaurants it should be off limits.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:39 pm to 777Tiger
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This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 9:28 am
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:40 pm to fightin tigers
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Your argument is that we have too many rules so no matter how much sense one makes we shouldn't add another.
Your comprehension blows.
My argument relates to property rights.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:43 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Private property, your house, smoke away. Businesses are regulated by the govt. It's always been that way.
Yeah, that's not really true, but whatever.
It's like the government coming into a restaurant that you own and saying you can only sell salads because fried food is a public health concern.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:44 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
I'm disappointed in you
I'm sorry.
quote:
I thought that you were against government overreach.
I am.
And I say that as someone who believes that everything the government does must have a valid public interest to promote the good wellbeing of the citizenry.
A campaign dedicated to eradicating self destructive behavior in smoking cigarettes qualifies as such and thus a ban on smoking in public venues can be ok.
Smoking cigarettes has absolutely no medical, financial and scientific value whatsoever; it's one of the biggest killers of Americans and should be negatively stigmatized whenever it can be
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:44 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Smoking is on a trashy level by itself.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:45 pm to Sentrius
quote:
A campaign dedicated to eradicating self destructive behavior in smoking cigarettes qualifies as such and thus a ban on smoking in public venues can be ok.
Aren't we talking about private property and not "public venues"?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:48 pm to Sentrius
quote:Clearly not
I am
quote:So where is the line for you?
A campaign dedicated to eradicating self destructive behavior in smoking cigarettes qualifies as such and thus a ban on smoking in public venues can be ok.
Smoking cigarettes has absolutely no medical, financial and scientific value whatsoever; it's one of the biggest killers of Americans and should be negatively stigmatized whenever it can be
Fast foods?
Alcohol?
Unprotected Sex?
Premarital sex?
Gay sex?
Skydiving?
There are thousands of things that people everyday that are potentially dangerous that have no financial or medical value.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:49 pm to upgrayedd
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Aren't we talking about private property and not "public venues"?
Any place where the public is welcome.
Don't let the name on the deed fool you.
You really don't and will never "own property" as long as the concept of property taxes exists.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:50 pm to Sentrius
quote:
Any place where the public is welcome.
Don't let the name on the deed fool you.
Should we do the same for drinking?
quote:
ou really don't and will never "own property" as long as the concept of property taxes exists.
While true, not really relevant.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:53 pm to Sentrius
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a ban on smoking in public venues can be ok.
What about a privately owned venue?
If someone wants to engage in a self destructive behavior, that's their own fricking business, is it not?
I find the idea of a man buttfricking another man to be disgusting, but if buttfrickers want to engage in buttfricking each other in the butt, it's their own buttfricking business, is it not?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
And you’re argument is that there is no such think as overreach because you like all the rules that came before.
Definitely not. No part of what I have said supports that.
True Libertarian thought process, which you are trying to adhear to, is flawed. There is some sort of mix that is perfect, but cray-cray's like yourself are what give the title Libertarian a bad name.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:54 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
So you agree that we shouldn't ban something simply because it can be dangerous?
Smoking isn't banned.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:54 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
True Libertarian thought process, which you are trying to adhear to, is flawed. There is some sort of mix that is perfect, but cray-cray's like yourself are what give the title Libertarian a bad name.
Private property rights are radical libertarian theology?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:55 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
So where is the line for you?
When your behavior negatively affects others around you.
Smoking stinks, makes other people around you cough too much and can get sick from secondhand smoke if exposed to it too long.
quote:
Fast foods?
Alcohol?
Unprotected Sex?
Premarital sex?
Gay sex?
Skydiving?
All of those are bad and a few of those are probably worse than smoking in of itself but they don't obviously negatively affect anyone else around them the way smoking does.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:55 pm to Sentrius
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All of those are bad and a few of those are probably worse than smoking in of itself but they don't obviously negatively affect anyone else around them the way smoking does.
What kills more people per year, drunk drivers or second hand smoke?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:57 pm to Sentrius
quote:
Any place where the public is welcome.
WHAT????? You are welcome to frequent tranny bars, do you frequent tranny bars? Because if the answer is "no, because I don't want to", then you have illustrated my point.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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My argument relates to property rights.
You mean the property the government allows you to operate as a bar?
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