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re: I’m about tired of the smoking bans in bars
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:57 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:57 pm to Chucktown_Badger
The real irony is that many of the bars in New Orleans were pushing for the ban so they would all be on the same level.
Has probably saved them an assload of money when it comes to their HVAC systems too.
Has probably saved them an assload of money when it comes to their HVAC systems too.
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:57 pm to Sentrius
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Sentrius
What's crazy is that it's a product that makes hundreds of millions of dollars for private companies and kills tens of thousands, but because it was so engrained in our culture people will go to bat for it.
And before people say, but booze is bad too! Keep in mind that me drinking doesn't give you cirrhosis.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:57 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
more people don't smoke than does. No one wants to smell like smoke, have their clothes smell like smoke & get lung cancer. Get your lazy arse outside if you want to smoke.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:58 pm to OweO
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OweO
Now it's on!
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:59 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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but because it was so engrained in our culture people will go to bat for it.
Nah, you're way off base. Private property rights are the issue, not smoking.
But statists don't give a shite about property rights.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 12:59 pm to OweO
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more people don't smoke than does. No one wants to smell like smoke, have their clothes smell like smoke & get lung cancer. Get your lazy arse outside if you want to smoke.
Agreed, if that is what the bar owner wants.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:00 pm to fightin tigers
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Everyone has a diffent goal.
and there's different types of bars.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Private property rights are the issue, not smoking.
But that's the point. There are already thousands of rules businesses have to follow, which govern what they can or cannot do. It's not like this is the first.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:01 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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That's been the discussion for 12 solid pages
And yet you can't seem to offer an explanation as to why this is unreasonable?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:04 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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There are already thousands of rules businesses have to follow,
Irrelevant. We have too many rules, so your argument is we need to add more?
Weird.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:05 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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And yet you can't seem to offer an explanation as to why this is unreasonable?
See my post above about the number of rules businesses already have to follow. This is one of them.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Irrelevant. We have too many rules, so your argument is we need to add more?
Weird.
Completely relevant.
Your argument is that we have too many rules so no matter how much sense one makes we shouldn't add another.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:07 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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What's crazy is that it's a product that makes hundreds of millions of dollars for private companies and kills tens of thousands, but because it was so engrained in our culture people will go to bat for it.
I understand the freedom and private property rights argument that people are making in this thread and I would support it being a limited government conservative but I just can't give two diddly shits about smoking enough to oppose these bans as smoking is trashy and a great exercise in darwinism to see who's still stupid enough to smoke.
I always think the current year argument is pretty stupid but not for smoking as if you're still smoking in 2019 with all of the information available about the damage from smoking and the negative stigma attached to it, you're an absolute idiot and trashy as frick.
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And before people say, but booze is bad too! Keep in mind that me drinking doesn't give you cirrhosis.
Drinking doesn't make you smell and doesn't negatively affect others around you.
You have a much easier time of quitting drinking.
It doesn't make you cough like shite and have extreme difficulty breathing.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Irrelevant. We have too many rules, so your argument is we need to add more?
Weird.
The majority of our society feels this is the right move and elected people who implemented it.
As a counterpoint many of you are coming off like this is the first and only law they have to follow, which is ridiculous. Smoking is a negative activity that affects others...that's why it's in the crosshairs. It's that simple, and yes, I do get your position. Society at large has shifted, for better or worse.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:11 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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See my post above about the number of rules businesses already have to follow.
This absolutely does not explain why it's unreasonable for people who don't want to be around smokers to simply frequent an establishment that is smoke free.
Not even close.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:12 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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This absolutely does not explain why it's unreasonable for people who don't want to be around smokers to simply frequent an establishment that is smoke free.
Not even close.
See my post about how this is where society has evolved to. It's the position whether anyone agrees with it or not.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:14 pm to Sentrius
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Drinking doesn't make you smell and doesn't negatively affect others around you.
The attendees of Al Anon, families of drunk driving victims, and the poor bastard who has to clean the restrooms at bars beg to differ.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:14 pm to Sentrius
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This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 9:30 am
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:16 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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families of drunk driving victims,
So you believe guns kill people too
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:17 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Absolutely
So you agree that smoking should be allowed on planes and in restaurants.
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