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re: If you were considering moving back to Louisiana...where?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:52 pm to MLSter
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:52 pm to MLSter
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Its 30% student, 60% parenting and 10% school. All these people in BR screaming their "chirren" need better teachers and nicer schools couldn't be more wrong. they need better parents.
You obviously have no idea just HOW bad some of the schools are in BR though.
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Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:54 pm to Chitter Chatter
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it seems I see a lot more people bash Louisiana than bash Texas
Absolutely, from the outside looking in LA sounds shitty( dity, poor infrastructure) plus now its just a thing to bash LA and south in genera, and texas sounds great( good roads/ infrastructure and $64 million high school stadiums) but that doesn't always tell the whole story. LA has way more to offer than that but it does suck that all the blacks and trashy white people are holding the state back.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 1:56 pm to Big Block Stingray
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So lots of kids in Louisiana have poor aptitude, got it.
It's more that there are not large concentrations of "good students" in many areas. LA's "larger" cities happen to be dominated by poorer minorities. The white flight to private school has left very little in the way of motivated student in the public schools. Look at Mandeville for instance. If the rest of the state had that concentration on middle class to upper middle class students, there would be high functioning public schools all across the state. But even in the rural areas, your numbers of middle class to upper middle class families are outnumbered by the poorer class who don't value education as much. If momma and daddy don't care about school, neither will the kid.
I'm not saying some school systems aren't bad. But, I blame that on the students as well. You aren't going to get good teachers wanting to teach there, and it will fall into a cycle. And even if you took great teachers and put them in a bad performing district, the students ultimately dictate the outcome and it will still fail.
I'd love to take an entire class of kids from poor performing areas and bus them into the highest performing schools. A 13 year experiment. From Kindergarten to 12th grade. They get the same teachers and facilities. Teachers get paid the same. Only thing is they do not mix in with kids from that area. It would be as if the school system suddenly traded places, but the student body remained the same. I bet you wouldn't see a 1% increase in performance.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:00 pm to lsunurse
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You obviously have no idea just HOW bad some of the schools are in BR though.
I worked for my mom installing school equipment in most BR area schools, I also installed some in Lafayette and across the river(forget the name) so I do know what they look like.
Some of the facilities aren't the best but does that really matter? they got kids in Africa walking miles to school everyday and then taking these classes outside or in a hut on chalkboards.
but you are right I have the numbers off its 35% student drive, 60% parents support/ help and 5% school infrastructure/teachers
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:07 pm to MLSter
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Some of the facilities aren't the best but does that really matter?
That's not what I mean. It's a safety issue for many parents. They don't feel comfortable sending their kids to the same schools with juvenile delinquents and kids that just don't care at all. They aren't just worried about the quality of education....they are worried about their teen's safety.
I can remember 20 years ago when I was in HS. I grew up in a poor, mostly black neighborhood in NBR. I went to a magnet HS and the other kids in my neighborhood went to schools like Istrouma and Glen Oaks. I was still friends with kids my age in my neighborhood and the stories they told me about their school was wayyyyyyyyyyyy different than where I went to school at. Telling me how their school had numerous fights everyday. Worrying about potential gang fights. Kids selling drugs at school. Getting beaten up for being one of the few white kids at the school(friend of mine got jumped in the girls bathroom by a gang of black girls yelling racial insults to her when she was a freshman).
And this was 20 years ago. I can only imagine it has gotten worse and not better.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:12 pm to TDcline
UPT
Madisonville
North of Covington
Madisonville
North of Covington
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:14 pm to SuperSaint
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I find it interesting that nobody (unless I missed it) has mentioned any of those places.
quote:Sign me up for South Lake Charles.
Lake Charles?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:14 pm to lsunurse
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She just doesn't feel like she wants to raise a family in BR anymore.
Anyone who lives in Baton Rouge and wants to provide their children with a good education has no choice but to send their kids to a private school. I had a coworker, several years ago, who moved to the BR office, from Houston. She grew up in the DFW area. She could not understand why everyone at work sent their kids to private school.
When there were layoffs, that was the biggest concern for most people. The difference between being able to send their kids to a "good" school or having to send them to public school. Not to mention, when EBR changed up the districts to balance out race at all the schools, if they had to go to public school, they would have to attend schools on the other side of town. The education system in this state is poisonous.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:21 pm to lsunurse
ok I gotcha, not necessarily the facilities but the jungle environment created by students with little to no respect for themselves or others. yeah must suck, the parents should be held responsible some how, like if your children is failing and getting in trouble, your taxes should go up, or should I say the paycheck each month should go down.
student report cards should be turned in with W-2 and other tax info at the end of the year
student report cards should be turned in with W-2 and other tax info at the end of the year
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:24 pm to OweO
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The difference between being able to send their kids to a "good" school or having to send them to public school. Not to mention, when EBR changed up the districts to balance out race at all the schools, if they had to go to public school, they would have to attend schools on the other side of town. The education system in this state is poisonous.
See my saving grace was the gifted and magnet school systems. It was my only shot at a decent public education. But now...the only true magnet HS is Baton Rouge High. Which I'm sure is a great option. However...as a parent I would imagine you can't just bank on sending your kid there. If it's the only decent option I would imagine it's more competitive to be accepted there now.
In elementary I went to a mixed regular school in NBR that also had gifted mixed in. No big deal for elementary. Middle school was a magnet/gifted middle school. Great environment since all of us basically nerds. HS...all magnet at SMHS. Again...perfect environment for a teen that wants to learn.
Year after I graduated they had the whole deseg debacle and decided that SMHS had to also accept neighborhood kids. Everyone protested it saying it's a horrible idea. And would just turn the school to crap. And it did(from what my younger brother told me since he was a student there after the change). Instead of one fight maybe a year...fights were almost daily. Many of the really good teachers left cause they didn't want to babysit problem kids..they wanted to teach. He said it was just never the same.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:35 pm to lsunurse
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lsunurse
It's not just BR. My Parish has been consolidated to one HS, this HS rates as a 2/10. The local charter school which pulls from the same populace for students is an 8/10. The major difference between the two is that if you don't want to learn at the charter school you will end up back at the public school. At the public school however if you don't want to learn you just disrupt the class because the alternative school was shut down.
ETA: By my parish I mean the one I was born and raised in, my current parish has an amazing public school system.
This post was edited on 5/12/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:37 pm to TDcline
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Are there any areas that have decent schools, low crime, and realistic home/land prices?
West Feliciana Parish
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:44 pm to TDcline
NOT nola
Posted on 5/12/16 at 2:55 pm to Jim Rockford
Ruston. Great place to raise a family. Great fishing and hunting. Hated to leave.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:00 pm to MLSter
I've posted before about implementing a plan where students who routinely disrupt the classroom/school environment cause their families to have their welfare/entitlement programs suspended temporarily or indefinitely.
Want to see how fast a state's education system can improve from the student side...?
Want to see how fast a state's education system can improve from the student side...?
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:07 pm to OweO
Most of the people who send their kids to Catholic schools in S LA would no matter if there were good public schools or not because they want them to have a Catholic education. If this were not the case more S LA public schools would be on par with the N La ones which are much better.
Look at the religious demographics in LA the more Catholics the worse the public schools are.
Look at the religious demographics in LA the more Catholics the worse the public schools are.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:08 pm to AwesomeSauce
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The local charter school which pulls from the same populace for students is an 8/10
The problem with the charter school system is that it is really good in some areas and completely the opposite in others. Its a privately ran, publicly funded system and unlike public schools, which where ever you live determines what school you have to attend, anyone who lives anywhere can go to their charter school of choice.
There is one in my area which is in its 2nd or 3rd year and has a low attendance, but when you look at the amount of money it receives, it comes out to be roughly $10k per student, however; because of the low attendance, there isn't enough students to offer as much or more than the public schools.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 3:14 pm to TDcline
Jonesville.
This whole state is a shite hole so I figure if were to move off and come back I might well come back to the shite hole I call home.
This whole state is a shite hole so I figure if were to move off and come back I might well come back to the shite hole I call home.
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:47 pm to jeffsdad
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Not that hard really....look for the area with the highest percentage of Republicans or Independents registered voters and the lowest percentage of democrats.
Welcome to Mandeville
Posted on 5/12/16 at 7:51 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Benton,LA
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