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re: If you knew someone who took part in the Jan 6th demonstration, would you inform on them?

Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:15 am to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:15 am to
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Some of us don't speak crazy, so you'll have to forgive us. You've referenced a few different videos and only provided a link to one that was a bit inconclusive on the claims you made on it. If there is indeed video of people in that room changing clothes, I'd be interested in seeing it.

So you’re slow as well bc a 6 yr old could read the exchange and know Roger was talking about the video with the barrier and not the video of weapons being handed out the window to antifa.

But call me crazy.....
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:21 am to
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Well Perry, if it's so obvious, let's hear what the crimes were.


You said:

quote:

As far as I know, no crimes were committed on Jan 6.
emphasis mine

The refute your question I only have to show a single picture:



This is a picture with a crime being committed taken on January 6th, 2021 at the US Capitol.

The balls in your court Mr. Barnes.



Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:21 am to
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So you’re slow as well bc a 6 yr old could read the exchange and know Roger was talking about the video with the barrier and not the video of weapons being handed out the window to antifa.


This is the post you responded to with "Are you slow?"

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There are no barricades and cops that I see in the video LSUAngel posted.


My emphasis added to show he was talking about the video you posted. The one where weapons were being passed from a window.

But do you have the video from inside that room? And just so we're clear, the room you said they were handing weapons out from.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11107 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:22 am to
I know people who participated in the protests last summer. Told me they were there in the streets protesting. Didn't get any more specific than that. I have no idea what they did and they didn't tell me. No cop or LE has ever called me. I have no reason to inform.

If someone told me they were protesting at the Capitol on Jan. 6th I wouldn't tell anyone. They might have just been standing outside the whole time and never went into the capitol or if they did they might have just walked around and not hit anyone or wreck anything.

But if they told me they hit a cop or smashed some windows and broke into some offices and stole or wrecked some stuff then I would inform.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:28 am to
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Democrats have mastered denying all logic in order to push a narrative to fit their agenda.
Hi there

Can you please provide proof of your claims of the below:

1. Please link the video of antifa members changing into Trump supporting clothing given by cops

2. Please provide proof of your claim that the video is in fact cops giving these newly dressed antifa plants weapons and then distributing those weapons to antifa members outside of the window

Thanks!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:30 am to
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But do you have the video from inside that room? And just so we're clear, the room you said they were handing weapons out from.


So you would like hard evidence before making up your mind on this issue, correct?

If so, why don't you view every other facet of life that way? You've never had an issue running with rumors before. Wouldn't the most obvious be the direction to lean here?
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:33 am to
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Democrats have mastered denying all logic in order to push a narrative to fit their agenda.




There's a saying about the pot calling the kettle a gay or something that comes to mind.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:48 am to
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My emphasis added to show he was talking about the video you posted. The one where weapons were being passed from a window.

Again, which clearly wasn’t the video roger was referring to. Hence, he is slow.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:54 am to
That is a crime. Period.

The problem is the law is not being uniformly applied to those who peacefully assembled (both inside and outside the Capitol building) and those who committed riotous acts of destruction. There is also the issue of the one hundred plus days of riots and destruction that occurred throughout the summer last year. None of which has been addressed in a meaningful way.

It is blatant hypocrisy and fear mongering on this current administration. I do not object to prosecuting criminals. But let Justice be blind (and it is not).
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:56 am to
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Can you please provide proof of your claims of the below: 1. Please link the video of antifa members changing into Trump supporting clothing given by cops 2. Please provide proof of your claim that the video is in fact cops giving these newly dressed antifa plants weapons and then distributing those weapons to antifa members outside of the window

I already said I watched the video many times and YouTube scrubbed every video the idiots filmed incriminating themselves. I know what I watched with my own eyes. I will not be gaslighted to think it didn’t really happen no matter how many times big tech deletes the evidence.

You can believe what the frick you want and if you genuinely want the truth then take the time to scour the internet for copy big tech hasn’t been able to scrub yet.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 11:59 am to
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Again, which clearly wasn’t the video roger was referring to. Hence, he is slow.
Oh, it wasn't me being slow, it was me trying to stay on the topic of my interaction with you regarding your video, which had no bearings on some other video two other people were arguing about, and not giving in to the obvious swerve.

Now, if you could answer the questions I have regarding your claims of the video you posted, that would be great.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:02 pm to
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I already said I watched the video many times and YouTube scrubbed every video the idiots filmed incriminating themselves. I know what I watched with my own eyes. I will not be gaslighted to think it didn’t really happen no matter how many times big tech deletes the evidence.

You can believe what the frick you want and if you genuinely want the truth then take the time to scour the internet for copy big tech hasn’t been able to scrub yet.
OK, so you don't actually have evidence that cops let antifa into a room, provided Trump supporting clothing that just happened to fit everyone, then gave them weapons in the same room to then disperse said weapons to the other group of antifa who did not dress as Trump supporters outside the window.

Well, I'm glad we go that cleared up. Thanks!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:04 pm to
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OK, so you don't actually have evidence that cops let antifa into a room,


We don't have evidence of a lot of things people have convinced themselves of, insurrection, Russian Collusion..

I haven't seen video of Antifa inside, but she's correct in that many videos were scrubbed from youtube. They should be somewhere else though
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:09 pm to
uhmm. that would be a NO
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:10 pm to
Yes, it would be funny in both cases.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
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That is a crime. Period.

The problem is the law is not being uniformly applied to those who peacefully assembled (both inside and outside the Capitol building) and those who committed riotous acts of destruction. There is also the issue of the one hundred plus days of riots and destruction that occurred throughout the summer last year. None of which has been addressed in a meaningful way.


That is more or less exactly what I said in my initial post, that there are legitimate discussions that can be based around the differences in how "justice" was pursued in the 1/6 case vs the riots for example. Meting out justice is never blind as long as done by humans but that is a topic for discussion.

This really comes down to the blind tribalism both sides are stuck in now. As long as "we" avoid or explain away the crime of people that vote the same way "we" do we will be stuck in a revolving door.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:21 pm to
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The problem is the law is not being uniformly applied to those who peacefully assembled (both inside and outside the Capitol building) and those who committed riotous acts of destruction.



I certainly have not followed every single arrest, but has anyone that was peacefully outside the Capitol been arrested? I know I've read a couple where the accused appeared to just go inside the building without doing much else, but I haven't seen any where the accused never went inside.

Follow up hypothetical question. Say you were there that day, and arrived at the Capitol building grounds late in the process. You see police barricades strewn about, windows smashed, etc. and just a general sense of chaos. Would common sense not tell you something amiss has transpired? Common sense would tell me to get my arse out of that area. Lacking common sense certainly isn't a crime, but claiming ignorance on not knowing the Capitol building was off limits that day also doesn't really fly.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:33 pm to
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…the Capitol building was off limits that day also doesn't really fly.
Then the agency responsible for keeping people out of the Capitol should have done their job and not permitted them to enter. The vast majority peacefully entered.



This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:33 pm to
Well I saw the evidence with my own eyes but IDGAF if you choose to believe the truth or accept the Marxist propaganda.

I complete support you exercising your right to remain ignorant.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:37 pm to
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We don't have evidence of a lot of things people have convinced themselves of, insurrection, Russian Collusion.. I haven't seen video of Antifa inside, but she's correct in that many videos were scrubbed from youtube. They should be somewhere else though

That’s their tactic... delete the evidence and convince the useful idiots it didn’t really happen. Sadly, they make people actually question themselves but they won’t gaslight me bc I, along with millions of others, watched it with my own eyes. It was a black DC cop in the room with them in one of the videos and he opened the door to talk to another cop. Then they opened the window and started passing out the weapons to the degenerates that had just arrived in buses by police escort.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 12:39 pm
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