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Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:11 pm to SheaForHeisman
I guess I would own a few hippos.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:22 pm to Muice
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A foreman on a project I was running a few years back told me his uncle was the head of a cartel in Mexico. He said the man had all the money in the world but his life was basically contained within the walls of his compound 98% of the time. That doesn't sound like much fun to me.
Granted there is probably a 90% chance he made this all up but still.
Probably lower than the odds his uncle has mysteriously vanished by now.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:39 pm to SheaForHeisman
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Pablo Escobar may have done terrible things but he was a genius and did a lot for the people of Columbia, I think a lot of things he did that hurt people was purely because he had his back against the wall and he saw no way out.
I don't think you should judge the kind of person Escobar was by 'Narcos'. That show glossed over how ruthless he was.
Also, the country is Colombia.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:40 pm to SheaForHeisman
Says a lot about your character that you see this piece of shite as a hero or super star.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:40 pm to SheaForHeisman
Nope
You will be always looking over your shoulder for the guy that wants to collect on taking you down.
You will be always looking over your shoulder for the guy that wants to collect on taking you down.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:41 pm to SheaForHeisman
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Pablo Escobar may have done terrible things but he was a genius and did a lot for the people of Columbia, I think a lot of things he did that hurt people was purely because he had his back against the wall and he saw no way out.
genius... wouldn't necessarily say that. he was a good organizer and enterpriser.
i have a friend from medellin, he was not a good man by any stretch of the imagination. he might have started out that way, but over time became selfish and megalomaniacal; i.e. slippery slope effect.
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Living the lifestyle that they did has to be one of the best things ever experienced on Earth, they owned Columbia
yet he couldn't leave his own property and had to hide himself, while worrying all the time if the DEA was going to bust in and kill/arrest him.
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it's hard to wrap your mind around the fact that a few poor kids from Columbia grew up to be some of the richest and most powerful men in the world.
its Colombia, btw. and no, i don't think it is. imagine having a product that's easily replenished and extremely addictive, you don't have to do any marketing to sell as much of this product as you can, people actually risk jail time to seek out this product.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:44 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
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There was no excuse for bombing that airplane
This was his biggest F Up....the intended target wasn't even on the plane.
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assassinating the president-elect, or the c4 bomb in Bogota
So think about this if you were Pablo...the only thing he was scared of was extradition....dying was a very distant second I think...both of these did help prolong the govt of Colombia not allowing extradition. Of course in the long run it didn't work out....but you could say it kept Pablo from being extradited.
I mean you have to think about it from his point of view because a regular person could't even think up these plans anyway that kill so many innocent people just to intimidate the government into not passing legislation.
I think if Pablo knew that he could have thrown money at the right people in the upper echelon of the govt like the Cali Cartel did just a few short months after he was killed he may not have started the war with the Colombian government...he would have just bribed them. The flip side of that is he still would have had the Rodriguez boys funding and arming Los Pepes (and other paramilitary groups) to take Pablo down.
In the end it was a lose lose for Pablo and I think him and his associates knew it....I think Velasquez was by far the smartest SOB in that cartel at the end....he went into survival mode and is the sole Medellin cartel survivor today (at least I think).
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:46 pm to upgrayedd
quote:there's also the matter of having a legit need to brutally murder people and their entire family
from the govt or rival cartels.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:53 pm to Masterag
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yet he couldn't leave his own property and had to hide himself, while worrying all the time if the DEA was going to bust in and kill/arrest him.
He was moving freely throughout the country when he won the seat in the Colombian Chamber of Reps. Hell the man traveled to Spain and represented Colombia when Spain swore in a new prime minister.
This was in the early to mid 80's when he was a well established cocaine trafficker....not sure if he was in Hacienda Napoles at that point or not but could be.
ETA
He was really only in hiding and on the run after his "escape" from La Catedral....I'm pretty sure that was less than a year.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 5:47 pm to SheaForHeisman
Yes, I would.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:07 pm to SheaForHeisman
"Colombia" Spell it right. Damn.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:12 pm to SheaForHeisman
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If you could be a Boss in a Drug Cartel would you?
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$60 Million a day
Yes.
For one day. Then I'd retire and leave my drug empire to someone else. I'd leave the country and never come back.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:26 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
yeah \
i'm good with living like a king til i'm 45 than getting killed
i'm good with living like a king til i'm 45 than getting killed
Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:26 pm to SheaForHeisman
In a heartbeat, especially back then. If you play it smart and keep a low profile, the opposite of what Pablo did, you can get out and be set. It would be a lot harder to get out clean today with all the technology but its doable.
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