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re: If you aren't majoring in Computer Science in college, you are wasting your time
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:03 pm to teke184
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:03 pm to teke184
We seem to keep having threads where many seem to be confused regarding computer science/coding jobs and information systems/IT jobs.
As far as OP goes, I agree comp sci is a great major. But there are other successful paths out there.
As far as OP goes, I agree comp sci is a great major. But there are other successful paths out there.
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:06 pm to EventHorizon
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BUT.... lets be honest us IT folks can use the experience and soft skills learned during college outside of coding.
The IT floor where I work has a cast of characters.
Before COVID, there were two dudes with big beards who look related and weren't. Just good friends that looked like bikers showed up at the same just about every day working in some combined cubicle space that somehow had a roof on it and was dark as hell.
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:07 pm to EventHorizon
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You learn more applicable stuff in the first year at the job than during 4 years of the CS bachelor.... BUT.... lets be honest us IT folks can use the experience and soft skills learned during college outside of coding.
Yeah. I'm still going to hire a college grad over someone without a degree majority of the time. Most of the people I know without a degree have no sophistication and I'm less likely to have something in common with them.
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:08 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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I think courses in speech and writing are helpful in college, along with a basic business course.
I'd have to admit as far as any formal education I've had, a public speaking class and a couple project management courses I took were probably more useful than anything else.
In the 20+ years I've worked in IT it was nothing to work with someone who worked in IT that didn't specifically study that or computer sci/engineering in college. A software engineer I worked with had a degree in Physics but was a self taught programmer. Said the logic and math in physics helped him become a better developer.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:10 pm to hikingfan
I would scrub toilets before I would work for Facebook
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:11 pm to LRB1967
Apparently one project manager decided he would take a horse cock up the arse rather than continue at Microsoft.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:11 pm to Kraut Dawg
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Want to guarantee your degree is worthless in a decade? Get one in computer science. Know your stuff and earn certs every three years keeps you relevant.
Absolute clown take.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:12 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:I wasn't alluding to your every day IT grunt. I meant as an advanced career where you're pulling down a quarter mill a year and up.
I got my CCNA before I ever had an IT job. The cert got my foot in the door for a $18 an hour job with benefits. This was over a decade ago.
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:12 pm to hikingfan
And those firms only take the top 1% or less of coders in the world. Most computer science folks become your IT department at the local company…not working for FAANG early $300K annually.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:12 pm to LRB1967
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I would scrub toilets before I would work for Facebook
I mean, if the comp package is compelling I'd give it a thought. FAANG companies like to act as if their shite doesn't stink though when it comes to the interview process.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:12 pm to Pechon
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I'd have to admit as far as any formal education I've had, a public speaking class and a couple project management courses I took were probably more useful than anything else.
I hated the public speaking courses. They were only 5-10 minutes long and one of them was just me showing how to make a grilled cheese sandwich with an iron. It's funny now since I've had to do much harder presentations since then.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:15 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Repetition, practice and half a Xanax, and I can present like a pro.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:15 pm to UltimaParadox
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:16 pm to hikingfan
One of my childhood friends has a PHD in computer science. Really probably the only person I would characterize as a genius I’ve ever know. He was offered jobs with every major tech company as well as many private equity firms in Silicon Valley. Passed them all up to teach. Can’t imagine how much he would have made but he doesn’t care
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:17 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Anybody have any Google Cloud certs? I've been studying for the Google Cloud Architect over the last month. It looks like the future of IT is just project management.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:17 pm to hikingfan
Yea... Tell me here anywhere around here that salaries are that high.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:18 pm to HubbaBubba
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Repetition, practice and half a Xanax, and I can present like a pro.
Klonopin here, but I will be in my extroverted happy place.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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My oldest is studying computer science - I’m not sure what to say
Takes a very specific type to be good at Computer science/Programming. Not saying you need to be a complete nerd but it sure as hell doesnt hurt
You aint walking off the Street and saying i'm really good at Computer science/programming. I laugh when i see the old just learn to code remarks. Seen many people fail at doing it. Thus the high pay for the ones that are good at it. This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:22 pm to jdd48
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Yea... Tell me here anywhere around here that salaries are that high.
Yeah. $350K would be in the range for one of the VPs at my company that's head of IT, and it's a large Fortune 500 company. Those salaries listed by the OP aren't reality unless you're working for Apple or Facebook and live in Silicon Valley.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:25 pm to FLObserver
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Not saying you need to be a complete nerd but it sure as hell doesnt hurt
Let’s just put it as - she is studying right now (on a beautiful Saturday afternoon)
I think complete nerd covers it
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