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re: If you aren't majoring in Computer Science in college, you are wasting your time

Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:37 pm to
This is like saying “Everyone should be a basketball player” then listing the median averages for players on the Lakers, Warriors, and Clippers.

Median salary in the G League or other low end league is crap.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:38 pm to
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dude your talking about MIT types.

Yeah those are the peak earners in the profession that work for someone else. That's like looking at Goldman Sachs salaries and thinking everyone in finance can achieve that
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:41 pm to
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Yeah those are the peak earners in the profession


or everyday junk pickers apparently
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:43 pm to
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We can't all be Splenda daddies




This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:43 pm to
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college dropouts

My oldest is studying computer science - I’m not sure what to say

Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:43 pm to
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dude your talking about MIT types.
My wife works for one of those companies. Pulls down $400k+.

Grad from Utah State with a marketing degree. Nothing about that degree helps with what she does.
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:49 pm to
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Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:51 pm to
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My oldest is studying computer science - I’m not sure what to say

My issue is that we educate our kids in the most expensive way possible with very little benefit to the kid.

We make them take history 1001 and other crap they'll never use in life to go be a software developer. It's asinine.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52535 posts
Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:53 pm to
People seem to confuse IT jobs and computer science. You don't get a bunch of certs if you have a real computer science degree.

Most companies hiring developers won't even look at your resume unless you have a bachelors in computer science or equivalent engineering.

That being said computer engineering is superior to computer science IMO.
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 4:57 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104023 posts
Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:53 pm to
Depending on what you are developing, you need a background in non-programming areas as well.

A combo of Information Systems and either Accounting or Finance is very popular because about every company out there has to do the corporate or agency books.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:54 pm to
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300k working for a tech company in San Francisco is like 40K in Louisiana.





And with remote access many don’t have to work in San Francisco full time
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:56 pm to
I think more employers should drop the 4 year degree requirement in lieu of some sort of technical or field related education or certification. I fail to see the benefit in many professions.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12690 posts
Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:56 pm to
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My issue is that we educate our kids in the most expensive way possible with very little benefit to the kid.

We make them take history 1001 and other crap they'll never use in life to go be a software developer. It's asinine.



There’s plenty to be said for a well rounded education, even if I don’t think we have the ideal equilibrium
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:58 pm to
There are no underserved populations, just underperforming ones.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:59 pm to
I would recommend an associates in a technical field and IT certs. I think courses in speech and writing are helpful in college, along with a basic business course.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51870 posts
Posted on 4/9/22 at 4:59 pm to
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I think more employers should drop the 4 year degree requirement in lieu of some sort of technical or field related education or certification. I fail to see the benefit in many professions.
Still, you don't just build certs w/o applied experience in the field. It's like, instead of peeling an onion a layer at a time, you're building a strong tree, one ring at a time.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:00 pm to
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My issue is that we educate our kids in the most expensive way possible with very little benefit to the kid.

I guess. We don’t pay anything for my oldest to go to college. The general education requirements might be asinine but I think it shows a little bit of commitment if a student sticks it out for the four years.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:00 pm to
Is this what my last employer meant when they told me to “Learn to code” before terminating me?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14232 posts
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Still, you don't just build certs w/o applied experience in the field. It's like, instead of peeling an onion a layer at a time, you're building a strong tree, one ring at a time.



I got my CCNA before I ever had an IT job. The cert got my foot in the door for a $18 an hour job with benefits. This was over a decade ago.
Posted by EventHorizon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
1054 posts
Posted on 4/9/22 at 5:02 pm to
You learn more applicable stuff in the first year at the job than during 4 years of the CS bachelor.... BUT.... lets be honest us IT folks can use the experience and soft skills learned during college outside of coding.
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