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re: If the south seceded again,
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to GreatLakesTiger24
great question
probably. so frick that i'm all-USA. if this ship is going down via expansive government, crony capitalism, and wealth distribution, i'm doin it in the stars and stripes, motherfrickers.
probably. so frick that i'm all-USA. if this ship is going down via expansive government, crony capitalism, and wealth distribution, i'm doin it in the stars and stripes, motherfrickers.
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to lsupride87
I would stay in Texas.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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if the "South" implemented limited government with no social welfare, they'd all emigrate to the "USA"
It's too bad this country wasn't set up with lots of separate, loosely connected territories so that we could try different things in different places to see what worked best and allow as much local control as possible so that people would be less likely to have to live with things they fundamentally disagreed with.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to thesoccerfanjax
quote:they can clean up the litter
They're not being eliminated, just put out of a job and possibly moved from working poor to straight up leach
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to thesoccerfanjax
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They're not being eliminated
no they are literally being eliminated by tech
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and possibly moved from working poor to straight up leach.
well they should have better skills or move to a country where their skill level can earn them a wage
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:18 am to VanCleef
Completely circumstantial.
For instance, if the North went full socialism and even some fascism infringing on my religious rights (HSTN Mayor demanding sermons be turned over to her, etc.) then I'd probably fight for the south or whatever state was seceding.
If it's just some tard state complaining about that durn Odummy, then no, I'd not be a traitor.
For instance, if the North went full socialism and even some fascism infringing on my religious rights (HSTN Mayor demanding sermons be turned over to her, etc.) then I'd probably fight for the south or whatever state was seceding.
If it's just some tard state complaining about that durn Odummy, then no, I'd not be a traitor.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:18 am to uway
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It's too bad this country wasn't set up with lots of separate, loosely connected territories so that we could try different things in different places to see what worked best and allow as much local control as possible so that people would be less likely to have to live with things they fundamentally disagreed with.
yeah i was going to make this point earlier but got a phone call. 100% right. this thread just shows why a monolithic fedgov is terrible
we'd never have to have these crazy discussions about secession or have such an emotional political divide
especially in the age of information
funny enough, norcal is starting to figure this out and support this
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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well they should have better skills or move to a country where their skill level can earn them a wage
I agree, but you think that, in this case, the USA is just gonna let anyone into the country? Where would they go?
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:19 am to VanCleef
Depended on why we seceded 
Name a reason
Name a reason
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:19 am to uway
We need to bring the "league of friendship" back.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:19 am to thesoccerfanjax
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but you think that, in this case, the USA is just gonna let anyone into the country?
i thought we were talking about people leaving the USA
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:21 am to thesoccerfanjax
Bro country
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:21 am to thesoccerfanjax
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most of the worthless people live in NYC
you forgot CA. not like those two liberal bastion economies help the USA at all.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
If the south declared prima noctae on ten year old boys the night of their birthdays I guess I'd stay with the USA.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:25 am to SlowFlowPro
No. We're talking about people whose jobs are being eliminated. Doesn't matter the country. In my example, I used the new CSA as the location. SO someone gets put out of a job by technology in the CSA. There is no welfare of any kind. For one reason or another they can't get another job or at least not fast enough to pay the bills. You really think politicians in the CSA won't be wanting these peoples' votes by promoting welfare and/or going against any kind of tech/innovation that could put people out of jobs? Politicians will frick it up just like they have everything else.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:26 am to VanCleef
I'd be a double agent for the south.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:26 am to Mung
How many people who would be initially for secession would change their mind if Apple products were not going to be available in CSA?
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:27 am to VanCleef
I would fight with the USA/North. The south will lose because everyone will leave at the halfway point of the war.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:27 am to thesoccerfanjax
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SO someone gets put out of a job by technology in the CSA. There is no welfare of any kind. For one reason or another they can't get another job or at least not fast enough to pay the bills. You really think politicians in the CSA won't be wanting these peoples' votes by promoting welfare
in my ideal society, it would not be possible b/c wealth redistribution programs would be unconstitutional
just like it was unconstitutional until the cased that changed the US forever: Wickard v. Filburn.
i'm talking federal, obviously. if a state/locality wanted to offer it, they would be free to do so. they'd have to fund it all, though
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:28 am to thesoccerfanjax
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How many people who would be initially for secession would change their mind if Apple products were not going to be available in CSA?
why wouldn't they?
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