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re: If so inclined, pls send up a prayer for Camp Mystic / TX Hill Country flood victims

Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Not to be a jerk…but I’ll hold my prayers for the family until I research this lawsuit they filed against the camp causing bankruptcy and closure. The fine line between acts of god, grief, blame, money, judgement, prayers…whatever. Ruining other people’s lives to place human blame on an act of god is not automatically prayer worthy.

I’m not going to judge how people handle the grief of losing a child. If you knew any of these people you would know how gut wrenching this thing this is. If camp mystic was negligent then they need to be held accountable. Keep in mind that pretty much everyone who is suing them is a mystic alum.
Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
1881 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:55 pm to
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You don’t sound like a jerk, you sound like a subhuman piece of shite. Kys, please.


You aren’t any better. Why tell someone to go kill themselves? Can’t you think of anything else to say that doesn’t make YOU look like a subhuman piece of shite?
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Ruining other people’s lives to place human blame on an act of god is not automatically prayer worthy.


I find this to be ironic.

Here is why…

A long time ago, I used to be a counselor at one of these camps. It was a great Christian summer camp atmosphere for all the kids. Awesome. Been there for years. Ran by good friend of mine.

Safety protocol was near nil. No leader / counselor daily discussions of weather, no evacuation plan, no safety kits or discussion for counselors, no daily report of kids were sick, etc. Activities, singinging, cooking hot dogs, swimming…fun stuff. And keep an eye on rattle snakes. About it.

Looking back (after 30 subsequent yrs in an IOC where safety was paramount), it was luckier than good. Same Guadalupe River. Same elevations.

However, the little girls were not next to the river like Camp Mystic.

In complete honesty, I think the camp had a Christian God’s hands led the way mindset and not real safety mindset. Negligent! IMO via Godliness came blindness (to real safety risks, never happened before, no barriers in place for kids, etc)

How Camp Mystic could even think about opening after so many deaths of so many vulnerable kids is incomprehensible to me.

Imagine sending your 7yo daughter to that camp. Will never see her again. Because she was in a cabin next to river that had no proactive safety protocols for the risk she was under. Tragic. Heart breaking. We know parents who lost theirs. Devastating pain. Unfathomable.

Indeed, I believe an act of God was in play but it was not the weather that I am talking about. Moreso, Christian cavalier > real safety…negligence!
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 4:49 pm
Posted by ummagumma
Member since Aug 2012
385 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:50 pm to
I get that to a certain extent…but I said I had to research what actually happened. I do not doubt their grief…but I do not favor lashing out, suing, and placing additional grief on the nearest human money source over an act of god because their grief says someone has to be responsible.
Posted by ummagumma
Member since Aug 2012
385 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:53 pm to
In other words, you are making an assumption based on your irrelevant past experience which may or may not be reality.
Posted by wheelr
New Iberia
Member since Jul 2012
6144 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by ummagumma
Member since Aug 2012
385 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:02 pm to
Last week, literally less than 20 miles from my home, 4 people died in Richmond Kentucky due to extremely rare flooding from heavy rain. The whole state had advanced warning of the rain and flooding potential. Who is negligent in their death? Or does that truly count as an act of god?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38269 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:37 pm to
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You aren’t any better. Why tell someone to go kill themselves? Can’t you think of anything else to say that doesn’t make YOU look like a subhuman piece of shite?


If your response to 30+ little girls getting washed away due to negligence is to worry about camps bankruptcy, then yes, I would prefer you remove yourself from the gene pool.
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