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If ISIS is a CIA operation to justify continued war in the Mideast

Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:49 pm
...a CIA operation to scare innocent American and world citizens enough that they beg their governments to go to war (meaning profits for the global elite), why won't Obama commit to total war against ISIS?

What is our government/military waiting for?

If this is another opportunity for people like Obama and the ruling elites to rake in cash for themselves, why won't Obama commit? What is his strategy (other than no strategy at all narrative)?

Does this imply that Obama isn't part of the global elite network, or is their plan much larger than ISIS, who may just be the current boogeyman stirring up chaos as a means to an unknown end?


???
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:51 pm to
What do you mean "if"?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38397 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:51 pm to
I don't know what the frick is going on over there. But I've stopped clicking on these convenient feel good stories such as '45 ISIS members poisoned during feast.' At the risk of sounding like Tx Tiger, I don't believe a lot of this shite anymore. That entire region is such a tangled mess, I can't buy into the good guy/bad guy narrative at this point.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30054 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:52 pm to
That's reductionist.

I hope you get hit in the face with an airbag later.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

a CIA operation to scare innocent American and world citizens enough that they beg their governments to go to war (meaning profits for the global elite)


It's not. They're just a useful proxy against Russian and Iranian influence in the region right now.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62714 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:53 pm to
The gloablist conspiracy works in mysterious ways
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

That entire region is such a tangled mess, I can't buy into the good guy/bad guy narrative at this point.



The entire world is a mess. Do you think the leaders of the United States are the "good guys"?

I no longer know.

I know that I like to think of myself as a person who is "good", but then I question that when I drive past a homeless person and don't even care to give them some food or drink. Or when I drive past a car on the side of the road with hazard lights on in a thunderstorm without a second thought to offer help.

Am I good or bad?
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
7049 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:55 pm to
I have nothing to add to this discussion unless you want to shift gears and talk about Arianna Grande tonguing that donut with her BF.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70222 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:55 pm to
Well said. It feels like the boogeyman gets stirred up every once in a while with things like the beheading videos, but no one can really give a good reason for hyping up ISIS yet not doing anything about them other than some general theory that the Saudis, Israel, and ISIS all have common enemies. At least with Al-Qaeda, you could say they were this nebulous thing that could get pinned on whatever country we want.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5051 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

I know longer know.


Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:56 pm to
Outside of the tinfoil business, Obama isn't going to launch any organized attack that could be considered "his" war in my opinion. He's too close to the end, and doesn't want that as his legacy. Even if it's needed, I think he just stalls.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:57 pm to
RA'd for lunacy (because I couldn't find the RA for stupidity button).

Aaaaand, the ANCHOR.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

The gloablist conspiracy works in mysterious ways



It sure does, but it's real nonetheless.

Don't you wish you could be a fly on the wall at the most secret global elitists meetings like what we imagine takes at the Bilderbergs?

However, I suspect that the Bilderberg meetings are just misdirection, a massive iillusion. I suspect the real trick occurs right in front of our faces each day and takes advantage of our failure to truly understand the geopolitical economic landscape as it really is.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:02 pm to
I believe his strategy is he doesn't give a shite what happens over there. Not saying I agree with him, but if you look at the history - no matter who is in power in those shithole countries they all are savages and they all hate America. We give money and weapons and they just sell them to the next group of assholes that rise up.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:04 pm to
Are you guys fricking kidding me? You sound like 9/11 "truthers"
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:05 pm to
I don't believe the Kurds hate American. In fact, the Kurds LOVE America...yet we refuse to help them.

And they seem like they could actually be a formidable force with pro-American intentions smack dab in the middle of that shite hole.

But we refuse to help them.
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5473 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:10 pm to
saudi and qatar are sunni and are usa ally: they fund isis

russia is syria's ally. assad is shia.

iran is usa enemy. iran is shia. iraq gov and iran both shia. usa helping shia militias protect iraq and fight isis.
saudi and iran are big enemies and this isis/syria thing is a proxy war.

throw in hamas, hezbolla, the iranian revolutionary guard, russian spetnaz, cia black ops, israel mossad, and every fanatic muslim within 1000 miles and you have a recipe for disaster.

to put it in perspective the second congo war ended in 2003 and killed 5.4 million. this just gets a lot more media attention

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62714 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:13 pm to
You're almost there yourself. Didn't you say this

quote:

I started off as a liberal. My parents are both bleeding hearts. Then, I grew up, started to test my beliefs and realized each and every tenant of modern liberalism is more or less complete bullshite, which is to say the diametric opposite of the world as it actually exists.
quote:

They won't be happy until we live in a Communist one world government. It sounds absurd, outlandish, and comical. That's because it is. But it's true.


See, you're already disillusioned. Which is good. You're able to sniff out bullshite, which is also good. Now just study some non-mainstream views of history and society today, look at all the pieces and concidences, and so on. You're likely to draw some very painful, very "out there" conclusions.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

study some non-mainstream views of history and society today


Any recommendations?

But really, ISIS is not a CIA/Jewish conspiracy.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62714 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:59 pm to
The history of Zionism, communism, WW2 is a good place to start. I wish I knew exactly what it was and the exact moment I changed my mind, but I don't. I'm on my phone now, maybe I can find you some links later
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