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re: If California legalizes recreational marijuana tmrw, does that affect all of us?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:20 pm to jennBN
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:20 pm to jennBN
It's looking good for Cali, Mass, and Florida. It's at 50% in Nevada, Arizona, and Arky. It'll probably fail in Montana.
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Tomorrow voters in five states will decide whether to legalize marijuana for recreational use, while four states could legalize or expand access to medical marijuana. Polling is strongest in California, where general legalization is on the ballot, and Florida, which seems to be on the verge of becoming the first state in the Southeast to allow medical use.
The latest survey indicates that Proposition 64, California's legalization initiative, is supported by 58 percent of likely voters. One of them is House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who revealed her preference on Friday. In 2010—when, according to Gallup, 46 percent of Americans thought marijuana should be legal, compared to 60 percent today—Pelosi declined to take a position on Proposition 19, the last attempt to legalize marijuana in California.
At least six other members of California's congressional delegation, including two Republicans, support this year's initiative. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), who opposed legalization in 2010, says she is inclined to vote for it this year. Not so Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a diehard prohibitionist who warns that Proposition 64 will cause increases in underage consumption and traffic accidents. Feinstein seems to be the only member of Congress from California who has come out against the initiative. In contrast with 2010, newspaper editorials are also leaning in favor of legalization—15 to 10, by Ballotpedia's count.
In addition to California, where Proposition 64 has received majority support in every poll taken this year, legalization looks likely in Massachusetts, where the latest poll puts support at 62 percent, raising the average for October from 52 percent to 55 percent. Legalization looks iffier in Maine, where the latest survey puts support at 50 percent, down from about 53 percent in two earlier polls. Support for legalization also hovers around 50 percent in Arizona and Nevada.
Among the four states with medical marijuana on their ballots tomorrow, passage still looks likely in Florida, where 71 percent of voters favored Amendment 2 (which needs 60 percent to pass) in the most recent poll. In Arkansas, where one of two medical marijuana inititiatives was disqualified late last month, the remaining measure, Issue 6, was supported by 50 percent of voters in the latest survey. A Montana measure aimed at expanding patients' access to marijuana was favored by just 44 percent of voters in a survey last month, while there are still no polling data on North Dakota's medical marijuana measure.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 6:45 pm to CCTider
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If they pass federal medical marijuana work place protections, then I'd be excluded from the thc portion of the urinalysis, as would any medical marijuana user/patient.
I suppose that wouldn't apply to certain professions (pilots?). On the other hand, I wonder if a THC level or cutoff point will eventually be agreed upon.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 6:54 pm to GetCocky11
Yes. This will be what ends prohibition for sure. The other places that legalized just aren't as culturally significant.
I love that I finally stop smoking and then weed will be legal.
I love that I finally stop smoking and then weed will be legal.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:23 pm to CCTider
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Old people were raised on reefer madness and other propaganda.
That's a myopic stereotype. That generation is largely gone. And the Republicans in the 60's were pretty Libertarian, enough that Goldwater won the nomination. And the Hippies are getting old now. You are fairly thoughtful for the most part but are falling back on stereotypes here.
And my vote for medical in Florida went in a while ago.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:27 pm to saint amant steve
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until any state in the South legalizes it
It will be Maryland or Florida in the south who legalizes first, then Georgia and the rest behind them.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:29 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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but when are we going to legalize cocaine?
Already medically legal class 2
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:35 pm to Clockwatcher68
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I suppose that wouldn't apply to certain professions (pilots?). On the other hand, I wonder if a THC level or cutoff point will eventually be agreed upon
At this point, we just want it legal. We'll accept damn near any proposition. But there's no question the it'll create a legal battle in the future. Marijuana stays in your system significantly longer than any recreational substance. And there's a big difference between it being in your system vs intoxication.
I expect as it becomes legal, better tests will be developed. There's finally a financial incentive to do it. I expect certain professions will require a zero nanogram threshold. But that's achievable within a day or so. It's the metabolites in your fat that need to quit being held against people, with certain exceptions as with alcohol.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:35 pm to Hot Carl
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I also read recently where teen usage has actually decreased in Colorado since it was legalized. That is the biggest selling point to states that refuse to get their heads out of their collective arse.
Unless their heroin use has also gone up.
This is the bigger issue for politicians. With the move towards legalization of marijuana in the U.S. the Mexican farmers aren't making as much growing it so they are converting their farms from marijuana to poppies, much of the reason for the heroin boom recently.
Full legalization and control of all drugs is ultimately the only correct and safe answer.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:48 pm to Tigris
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That's a myopic stereotype. That generation is largely gone. And the Republicans in the 60's were pretty Libertarian, enough that Goldwater won the nomination. And the Hippies are getting old now.
A guess there a little stereotyping. But about 15% of the population is over 65, and they vote at over 70% turnout. At over 30 million voters, that's still a large voting block. Baby boomers are technically under 70 right now, that number may vary a bit.
It's also something that will never be accepted by they puritanical religious crowd. Many wish alcohol was banned. But anyone with common sense knows that was a failed experiment.
It's definitely becoming closer to becoming reality. But the baby boomers are also become the retiree vote. Which is a very good thing.
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You are fairly thoughtful for the most part but are falling back on stereotypes here.
Thanks, i try to present intelligent arguments towards legalization (though I think my autocorrect has an ulterior motive). Too many hard working, intelligent professionals have stayed hidden because of fear of losing their job and the Cheech and Chong stigma.
While it's a lot like alcohol, it's also very different, and not for everyone. Different people have different a brain chemistry. But when the prohibition causes more harm to society than the substance's influence, things need to change.
Thanks for the vote. My pops in Florida has his fingers crossed.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:08 pm to CCTider
Since Colorado has an all mail in ballot system, I decided it was my duty as an American to roll a joint on my ballot. A joint of weed I grew legally in my backyard. Freedom feels damn good.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:07 am to goldennugget
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I support legal marijuana, but I think those who actually smoke it are lowlife worthless deadbeats who are no better than the maggots reproducing in a dead possum carcass.
*he said, pausing briefly to sip his Natural Light tallboy*
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:40 am to CoachChappy
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It will be legalized in many places, but slowly. Some old folks are going to have to die off first. (I'm not joking, just being morbidly honest.)
Agreed. My wife's grandparents were here over the weekend. They're both in their 80s. They were talking about Colorado legalization and was saying"we saw a man on tv saying that babies are being born in Colorado addicted to marijuana when they're born. It's crazy that they are legalizing that stuff!"
I was in the kitchen cooking. I said nothing. I was better off leaving it alone
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:43 am to Prominentwon
Devils lettuce.
Satan's cabbage.
And all that jazz.
Attitudes are changing. More people are figuring out we've been lied to about a whole lots of shite so that others can get rich.
Satan's cabbage.
And all that jazz.
Attitudes are changing. More people are figuring out we've been lied to about a whole lots of shite so that others can get rich.
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