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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:14 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
Yep. A lot of people addicted to opiates, probably said the drug users deserves whatever happens to them. Back injuries have created more heroin addicts than cannabis.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:18 pm to GetCocky11
As long as cops can detect it if someone is behind a car driving under the influence and take the appropriate actions I think it should be legal.
No everyone will be smoking it as there are other ways to consume THC.
As much as people talk about a revenue source, that mostly means more wasteful spending by the states when they start to receive this revenue.
No everyone will be smoking it as there are other ways to consume THC.
As much as people talk about a revenue source, that mostly means more wasteful spending by the states when they start to receive this revenue.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:19 pm to CCTider
harder to get pain meds these days, that's one of the main reasons heroin usage is way up.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:25 pm to ninthward
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Do you not know the revenue CO is getting from sales?
Or do you not know the revenue generated from drunk driving? Alcohol is legal you know.
1)As of 2015, Colorado brought in approximately $125 Million in pot related taxes.
2)The money brought in from drunk driving is mostly from court stipulated fines, and attorney retainer fees, which can end up $10k+. That doesn't include other things like MADD sessions or bond/bail/fines, plus possibly getting your vehicle forfieted.
There was a pretty ingenious setup (in NYC) where while locked up jail, the DA would prosecute a forfeiture action (to get his vehicle) against the DUI defendant while in awaiting trial. DA would accomplish this by stacking the charges so defendant either got remanded or couldn't afford to get out. Only after the defendant lost his forfeiture case (by default judgement mostly) were the fictional charges dropped. It's ALL about the money.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:26 pm to t00f
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harder to get OTC pain meds these days,
Otc is all non narcotic. It's prescription pain meds that are harder to get.
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that's one of the main reasons heroin usage is way up.
It is. But the ease of access is what got so many addicted in the first place.
I've seen a lot if ruined and lost from opiates. It's the reason I moved from Florida in the mid 2000s. I couldn't flirt with a girl at a bar without pills being brought up within minutes. I like easy pussy, but not like that. That just always felt creepy to me.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:28 pm to CCTider
sorry not sure why I said OTC, meant to say prescription
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:43 pm to t00f
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sorry not sure why I said OTC, meant to say prescription
I figured that's what you meant
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:00 pm to GetCocky11
There are still dry counties in AL
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AL has a women named Twinkle running for office that talks like a hillbilly. The state will fight progression to the end.
ETA:
AL has a women named Twinkle running for office that talks like a hillbilly. The state will fight progression to the end.
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:02 pm to AUCE05
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There are still dry counties in AL
There are a lot of counties and cities where you can't buy cannabis. And that's fine. It should be a local issue, but not a criminal offense to possess.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:09 pm to GetCocky11
Already voted YES on ballot question #2 here in NV! It's very likely to pass at this point.
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:33 pm to t00f
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As long as cops can detect it if someone is behind a car driving under the influence and take the appropriate actions I think it should be legal.
Is there a test for Oxycontin? What about Xanax? I'm not sure I follow your logic here.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:34 pm to GetCocky11
Nothing will change in La
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
It's on the ballot in 5 states. If all 5 pass, then it's massive. I'd say if 3/5 pass it, it's could still be a turning of the tide.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:57 pm to t00f
Anything can be tested by blood. But thc intoxication isn't linear like alcohol. I could smoke a gram joint by myself and still bit be as high as someone without a tolerance who took one hit off that joint. It'd be like me needing a handle of whiskey to get a buzz vs someone needing a couple sips of a beer. Marijuana tolerance develops very quickly and differently than alcohol.
I last smoked 15 hours ago. I'm not buzzed at all. But I may technically be diving intoxicated by the Colorado 5 nanograms standard. Meanwhile, someone without a tolerance may have smoked 2 hours ago, is still high, but is below the same threshold. That makes it complicated.
I last smoked 15 hours ago. I'm not buzzed at all. But I may technically be diving intoxicated by the Colorado 5 nanograms standard. Meanwhile, someone without a tolerance may have smoked 2 hours ago, is still high, but is below the same threshold. That makes it complicated.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:27 pm to CCTider
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I last smoked 15 hours ago. I'm not buzzed at all. But I may technically be diving intoxicated by the Colorado 5 nanograms standard.
Just curious... this job you have where you hold our lives in your hands... what's the testing policy? Is workplace "zero tolerance" still a thing in Colorado?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:46 pm to Clockwatcher68
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Just curious... this job you have where you hold our lives in your hands... what's the testing policy? Is workplace "zero tolerance" still a thing in Colorado?
It varies within the industry. My current company doesn't test. But they aren't working on infrastructure projects that require federal funds to happen. Technically, if they needed me on a certain project that requires testing, I'd have to take a test. Though they know I smoke, so they would warn me if I had to take one.
It's the drug free workplace act that requires testing for anything that receives federal funding. I was on a high profile project in Denver that went out of their way to test extra because of legalization. If they pass federal medical marijuana work place protections, then I'd be excluded from the thc portion of the urinalysis, as would any medical marijuana user/patient. That's another reason why the scheduling is a big deal.
Zero tolerance varies still. You could probably claim addiction and they'd send you to counseling first. It just depends on the employers attitude at that point.
And I may have been exaggerating. I have no clue what my actual blood levels are 15+ hours, and several hours of sleep, after last smoking. But I know they only time I've felt like my job performance suffered was after drinking the night before, and it only takes a few.
I enjoy smoking to relax, but I use indica strains to get to sleep. I've had sleep issues for years, and cannabis is effective. I'd rather use it than sleeping pills.
I also don't want to make it seem like everything I've done has people's life on the line. Though some things I have. I'm not a surgeon. Though I would rather my surgeon smoke a joint the night before than drink a few beers.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:03 pm to CCTider
If California votes yes, it will be a huge deal. The California economy is massive (about 8th largest in the world and bigger than France by some estimations.) It would eventually force some action by the federal government. If California, Nevada and Massachusetts go legal there will be big movement nationwide in a few years IMHO.
The Southern states will hold out but the tax revenue will be too tempting to hold it back. Most Southern states are facing huge budget shortfalls because of Medicare. This would be a big help in that regard.
The Southern states will hold out but the tax revenue will be too tempting to hold it back. Most Southern states are facing huge budget shortfalls because of Medicare. This would be a big help in that regard.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:08 pm to GetCocky11
I don't think it will go legal here....it failed to pass last time. Mainly growers were against it and the same complaints remain. We will see....California surprises me everyday.
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