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re: IEA Says World Must Spend $540B a Year Looking for Oil, Gas

Posted on 9/16/25 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51920 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 3:58 pm to
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Even more entertaining has been the about-face from Big Tech that pushed for wind and solar for decades. All of a sudden they need REAL power for their big facilities and are falling over themselves for gas turbines.


Not accurate. The AI data centers are using almost every form of power production, wind, solar, gas, and nuclear. Their thirst for power is looking in every corner. Hell, some of them are using gen-sets.

His post WAS accurate. What do you think the gas turbines he talked about are? They are gensets.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1902 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:38 pm to
My old PetE 101 professor and good friend says that the supply of oil and gas is almost endless. Unfortunately, I never became a petroleum engineer so I can’t confirm.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11443 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Something like we will run out of it before we ever find its replacement. We are not of that mindset yet so we keep looking. As far as the US, maybe we can find more in offshore Alaska??


The thing about oil is that what you learned in school that it was produced by decaying dinosaurs was wrong. There is so much that goes into oil that oil may not be a byproduct of decaying matter, but a mineral that is produced under pressure by the earth.

I have heard that some wells that were pumped dry start producing again. There also potentially so much oil under gulf of America that it leeches to surface.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3978 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:09 pm to
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No one that lives in a shithole like Cancer Alley in Louisiana could possible agree with this. We need cleaner energy. We just can't do it at the expense of human lives.


This is debatable. International Tumor Registry which tracks cancers found that the rates in “cancer alley” are on par with the national average.

I guess that depending on the study and who is funding determines the results.

That said, I’m sure the numbers are fudged on both sides, but thanks for shitting on Louisiana.



Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22962 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:03 pm to

Translated: If you insist on the continued use of internal combustion engines, we’ll just outright make a big demand for boatloads of money.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16553 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:12 pm to
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Translated: If you insist on the continued use of internal combustion engines, we’ll just outright make a big demand for boatloads more money.

FIFY

Lobbyist gonna lobby.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
5157 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:44 pm to
I am working in Shanghai at the moment and must say, for a city of 27M or whatever it is ..... the air quality is remarkable as it feels like the majority of the vehicles are electric. To own a gas powered car gets you a serious tax and blue license plate.
Posted by geaux4tigers
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2006
970 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:14 am to
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can't fill a gap in energy resources, in which we give them a 25-year head start


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a 25-year head start they can't replace Big Oil.


I don't think you understand what a head start is.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8571 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:41 am to
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How many (actual) dirt poor people in the 3rd world countries have died, contracted diseases, gone hungry, lived in squalor, etc due to liberal’s green energy push? By the way solar panels placed in farm fields actually get rid of natural plants and food sources and leach chemicals into the ground, while not producing much electricity


Yeah man, solar panels on farms I guess.

The top 20 oil companies in the world that aren’t from third-world countries are doing what for the third-world countries they can tap oil from? bless
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10368 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 1:19 am to
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nuclear will fill the gap.


Then they better get busy building reactors.

What does it take, like 10 years or more to plan, locate, build, and license a reactor?

We currently have around 100 operating commercial reactors in the US. To replace our entire energy supply it would take 8,000. To supply just our electricity needs it would take about 700.

I'm all for it, but we better get going if that's the plan.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 5:54 am to
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You do realize nuclear had the same subsidization structure as wind and solar right?


That’s not true. For most of the last 20 years, wind and solar could operate at negative prices due to subsidies. At the same time single unit nuclear plants were shutting down due to non-competitiveness.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16553 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:28 am to
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That’s not true

Are you sure about that?
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For most of the last 20 years, wind and solar could operate at negative prices due to subsidies. At the same time single unit nuclear plants were shutting down due to non-competitiveness.

Do you understand how this works? Legit question.
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
2217 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:29 am to
Truck nuts ON
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31310 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:31 am to
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Then they better get busy building reactors.

They better get busy finding a happy median between safe operating requirements and over regulatory systems that do nothing but take longer and drive up costs.

And the workforce to support that effort will take years to properly train.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16553 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:34 am to
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They better get busy finding a happy median between safe operating requirements and over regulatory systems that do nothing but take longer and drive up costs.

Better get busy finding a place where NIMBYs won’t sure a pre NTP project into oblivion. That’s the #1 death sentence for every nuke project in the last 20 years.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:58 am to
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Do you understand how this works? Legit question.


I do not work on that side. But it’s pretty basic information that renewable energy credits allowed solar and wind to operate at negative wholesale rates. And it is also just fact that many single unit nuclear plants were shutdown during this period because they cannot compete in that environment as a baseload power source. They simply can’t pay for people to take their power.

It wasn’t until the last couple of years that this changed.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16553 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:01 am to
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I do not work on that side. But it’s pretty basic information that renewable energy credits allowed solar and wind to operate at negative wholesale rates. And it is also just fact that many single unit nuclear plants were shutdown during this period because they cannot compete in that environment as a baseload power source. They simply can’t pay for people to take their power.

It wasn’t until the last couple of years that this changed.

Yeah pretty amazing that even with the same subsidization structure that nuke can't compete. It's almost like the CoC and O&M are too high and getting beat by the others on the open market.
Posted by ActusHumanus
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2025
623 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:13 am to
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That said, I’m sure the numbers are fudged on both sides, but thanks for shitting on Louisiana.


Louisiana is shite-worthy. We've been around for 213 years. We have enough natural resources to make a sheikh wet himself, a river at the heart of U.S. shipping, massive ports, etc., yet we can't seem to climb out of the basement.
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