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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:18 am to NATidefan
Unfortunately, it might only ever be solved if the perp is a repeater.
One data point is an anomaly, two are a curiosity, but three establishes a trend. If the killer repeats, he’ll start to show patterns.
One data point is an anomaly, two are a curiosity, but three establishes a trend. If the killer repeats, he’ll start to show patterns.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:19 am to supadave3
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They know something we don't. The dead guy inside did it and I'm sticking to it!
Is there any particular reason that you want to pin this on one of the victims, or is it just a hunch? So the guy butchered three people and then butchered himself? Case closed.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:22 am to DaleGribble
Yeah, he butchered the girls, then himself and was able to hide the murder weapon before he croaked. Seems reasonable.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:23 am to lsufb1912
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Rambo style knife.
That would be a POHL Force MK-9
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:45 am to OweO
The knife you referenced is not the knife used in the Rambo movie.
Shut up, Chris.
Shut up, Chris.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:50 am to roadGator
I think the main thing about the knife is they know it was a style that has saw teeth. I read somewhere that particularly. I guess they could tell from the wounds.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:55 am to fwtex
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I put that local police at about the same reliability as Uvalde PD. They never expected to ever have to deal with such a crime.
Not sure why you got so many downvotes, but I think you’re correct. They’ve completely botched the investigation for a week.
Just yesterday they finally blocked off the wooded area behind the house to search & were seen measuring tire tracks in the driveway.
They should have done these things at the beginning of the investigation.
Things like this & them looking into the ROTC program to track the knife proves they have no idea who committed this crime.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:57 am to DaleGribble
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s there any particular reason that you want to pin this on one of the victims, or is it just a hunch? So the guy butchered three people and then butchered himself? Case closed.
I said in my original post that I'm likely wrong. It is a complete hunch and solely based on the idea that I cannot fathom such a violent, messy, blood soaked scene and not even a description released of person or vehicle to be on the lookout for. I'm thinking that there is much more information that has not been released to us yet.
Your post is not wrong and my hunch doesn't make a bit of sense either. I'm just perplexed at how this is going to turn out.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:02 am to lsufb1912
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Things like this & them looking into the ROTC program to track the knife proves they have no idea who committed this crime.
Yeaahhh, but...it's less than 10 days after the crime. If this was truly a stranger or, at most, barely an acquaintance, there is no reason for them to know the killer at this point.
I think it was fair to pursue the people they interacted with in the hours shortly before the murder as initial suspects. And that is going to take at least 2-3 days, at least, to sort out who had solid alibis for the time of the murders.
I think the ROTC armory is going to be a dead end, but if the knife is truly a military-grade, 7" serrated blade, then it's at least worth a look to see if a knife is missing.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:06 am to UndercoverBryologist
Not saying it's not worth looking, lots of crimes are solved by just hard work.
But it tells me they don't really have any idea who did it as well.
But it tells me they don't really have any idea who did it as well.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:20 am to NATidefan
I think after eliminating the food truck guy, "not having any clue" was going to be the default until they had another break.
One thing about checking the ROTC armory, even if they can eliminate it as being from the armory, it at least allows them to look at the general population for tips.
Assuming the killer is local, Latah County, Idaho is only 40,000 people. A 7" combat knife is going to be something that the owner likes to show off to friends. Assuming 20,000 males (I know. I know. More females are going to college these days) in the county, let's assume that maybe 1/10th of them are in the age range of a most budding serial skillers.
And, let's assume that 1/10 of that cohort would be likely to either purchased a combat knife recently or inherited their grandpa's old Ka-Bar. That's 200.
Of those 200 males, how many have alibis for 3-4 am on November 13?
Edit: It might still be a long-shot. But like I said, a 7" combat knife is likely going to be something they would probably show off to their friends.
One thing about checking the ROTC armory, even if they can eliminate it as being from the armory, it at least allows them to look at the general population for tips.
Assuming the killer is local, Latah County, Idaho is only 40,000 people. A 7" combat knife is going to be something that the owner likes to show off to friends. Assuming 20,000 males (I know. I know. More females are going to college these days) in the county, let's assume that maybe 1/10th of them are in the age range of a most budding serial skillers.
And, let's assume that 1/10 of that cohort would be likely to either purchased a combat knife recently or inherited their grandpa's old Ka-Bar. That's 200.
Of those 200 males, how many have alibis for 3-4 am on November 13?
Edit: It might still be a long-shot. But like I said, a 7" combat knife is likely going to be something they would probably show off to their friends.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:26 am to UndercoverBryologist
The university has almost 12000 students. That means you've got about 6000 males from it alone.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:40 am to bikerack
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Apparently from the most recent press release from police. Got it from twitter.
I don't see how they can really rule out the skinned dog being connected unless they know who killed the dog or who killed the students
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:49 am to UndercoverBryologist
How many murders go unsolved?
If whomever did this is keen enough to cover his tracks well enough, he may be able to pull it off without anyone ever figuring it out.
Just not likely though. He'll either kill again, or he'll tell someone. Unless we got some BTK type killer dude.
If whomever did this is keen enough to cover his tracks well enough, he may be able to pull it off without anyone ever figuring it out.
Just not likely though. He'll either kill again, or he'll tell someone. Unless we got some BTK type killer dude.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:52 am to supadave3
So the dude stabbed himself, then threw the knife out the window as he bled out? 
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:55 am to schatman
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So the dude stabbed himself, then threw the knife out the window as he bled out?
He killed them with a knife, then threw it in the lake on campus. Then came back and stabbed himself with a ice knife that melted.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:57 am to NATidefan
Dammit- I was just coming here to post my ice knife theory- you beat me to it
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:01 pm to NATidefan
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That means you've got about 6000 males from it alone.
Okay, so let’s assume there’s a strong possibility that the killer was a student. This wasn’t a financially or otherwise rationally motivated crime, so we can probably safely assume that the killer has either a diagnosed or undiagnosed psychopathic mental illness.
Maybe Im overshooting the odds of that, but let’s say it’s 10 percent. That’s 600 psychopathic males. Of those 600, how many are likely to have a combat knife that matches the weapon used in the killings? Again, let’s just, for the sake of argument say it’s 1/10th.
So, with some admittedly hairy assumptions, we can say that maybe 60 psychopathic, college-age males with access to 7” knives live in Moscow. We might double it to account for Pullman, but for right now, let’s keep it at 60.
Of those 60, how many have friends that know they have such a knife, can’t account for their whereabouts on November 12-13, and have defensive scratch marks on their face?
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:23 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Worst case scenario would be a drifter or even worse than that, someone calculated enough to travel a great distance to commit the crime.
Personally, I would rule that out based on the prior skinning of a neighbor's dog. There are pretty good odds on that event being related to this one. This would indicate someone local, because I can't fathom someone traveling distance to skin a family pet to later return and murder 4 people in the same area.
And that fact alone should give the families involved some sense of relief that they have a better chance of eventually solving this crime
Personally, I would rule that out based on the prior skinning of a neighbor's dog. There are pretty good odds on that event being related to this one. This would indicate someone local, because I can't fathom someone traveling distance to skin a family pet to later return and murder 4 people in the same area.
And that fact alone should give the families involved some sense of relief that they have a better chance of eventually solving this crime
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