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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:01 am to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41287 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:01 am to
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Wondering if the families of the deceased are looking to sue her or what.


If I were 1 of 2 surviving people in a home where 4 people were murdered while I was there, I would absolutely have an attorney. If nothing else, an attorney could assist with protecting her interests in the media and online.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:08 am to
quote:

f I were 1 of 2 surviving people in a home where 4 people were murdered while I was there, I would absolutely have an attorney. If nothing else, an attorney could assist with protecting her interests in the media and online.


I agree to a certain degree. Still doesn’t excuse her behavior. Drunk or not, you had the wherewithal to go lock yourself in your own room - more than likely with YOUR PHONE NEXT TO YOU - yet did nothing.

At the very least it’s cowardice. Her actions however could not have saved her friends.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41287 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:21 am to
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I agree to a certain degree. Still doesn’t excuse her behavior. Drunk or not, you had the wherewithal to go lock yourself in your own room - more than likely with YOUR PHONE NEXT TO YOU - yet did nothing.

At the very least it’s cowardice. Her actions however could not have saved her friends.


I’m stumped on this, too, and am intrigued by what could be the reason for the delay. However, I’m going to wait for more info before judging. I’ve been in shock before and understand what it’s like to completely shut down. Luckily, I shot at the perpetrator and he ran away before I shut down.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19973 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:27 am to
Never talk to police without your attorney present. Plenty of innocent people have ended up in jail by giving statements to the police because they thought they were helping. The last thing you want to do is say something and then get hemmed up in some hair brained theory that you were involved in a quadruple homicide
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1388 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:30 am to
That's a wild theory, but it almost makes more sense than what we know at the moment. I'm not saying the surviving girls were accomplices, but I just don't see how someone stabs FOUR people to death in your house and there isn't a hell of a lot of commotion. If that Ring audio is legit, there is a man screaming at one point.

Probably I've watched too much Ozark and Narcos, but the drug connection has been mentioned since the beginning. I think when some of you are reading it was a "known party house" you're just thinking a DJ and some Trulys.
Posted by Flipper94
Member since Dec 2022
377 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:32 am to
They were probably all nerds and BK was mad that they had kicked him out of their guild on WoW.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41287 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Never talk to police without your attorney present. Plenty of innocent people have ended up in jail by giving statements to the police because they thought they were helping. The last thing you want to do is say something and then get hemmed up in some hair brained theory that you were involved in a quadruple homicide


Yep. You never know how competent some police are or if they will just try to close something out with an easy theory. Plus, there’s so much talk about her online, much of which isn’t correct or flattering. I’m sure she’s needed at least 1 cease and desist so far.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36536 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Never talk to police without your attorney present.


Your post just gives me a reason to post this YouTube link.

Don't talk to the police
Posted by sdw1002
Member since Jun 2017
147 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:02 am to
I didn’t fall for anything, just found a few of the points interesting
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 9:03 am
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1388 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:19 am to
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sdw1002


The story is wild, but it definitely adds another explanation. Maybe the truth isn't that over the top, but it certainly explains why he was there on several occasions (not stalking).

Not sure why so many on here are confident they have this case solved.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61404 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:23 am to
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I’m stumped on this, too, and am intrigued by what could be the reason for the delay. However, I’m going to wait for more info before judging.


I don’t know what new information could be given to make it look better. She was either extremely drunk/high and fell asleep, or paralyzed in fear and didn’t move for 7 hours. There is no scenario in which you hear a lot of commotion and see a strange man in your house and you think “oh, that’s normal” and go to sleep. The fact she was supposedly able to recall minute details leads me to believe she wasn’t pass out drunk/high.

I don’t think she was involved, but it’s one of the aspects of the case that doesn’t make any sense.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4617 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:24 am to
False info

quote:

she's lawyered up


Where in the article you posted does it state that?


You're reading a quote by Shannon Gray, Goncalves family attorney.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70346 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:34 am to
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Jesus Christ how retarded is whoever wrote that
The first (massive) clue was that it was posted on Facebook.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59850 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:25 am to
LINK
Just saw this on another forum


This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 10:28 am
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4617 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:29 am to





Jk

I saw that too and somewhere he posted over 10 years ago where he stated he took too many Musinex and prescription pills and it altered his brain chemistry. Assuming that's all him. Definitely was off his rocker.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4555 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:44 am to
The more I think about the delay in calling the cops the more puzzling it is.

I mean certainly Bryan was literally running around the house killing people. I would imagine ran out the door and past Dylan. At first I was imagining Bryan walking past her in the hall, but I have to think he was moving relatively fast and with extreme purpose. I mean he sped off in his car. He had to be frantic in the house and I really cant understand how Dylan saw that and went to bed.

paralyzed with fear? what was she fearing at that point?
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 10:45 am
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5502 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:45 am to
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Nothing nefarious, but that's the all time mostest head-in-sand syndrome ever. Multiple red flags at 4:15 am and 7 hrs later does the alarm go out. That puzzles me.


At first I found it wierd too, but thinking on it more I don't find it all that alarming she waited when you look at it from her perspective. She didn't know there was even a problem, much less anyone had been murdered, until after the fact. She saw a man in a house known for having folks in and out. A door dash delivery had just occurred. Folks obviously came and went at all times of the night there. Would her actions seem so weird if they weren't murdered but just were still passed out? Her actions have to be looked at from what she knew at the time not what we know after.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10534 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:50 am to
Reddit post linking to a YouTube video that has Khoberger's social media posts dating back to when he was 15 or so. Completely damaged person. Interesting insight into how he could've easily done this.


Reddit

YouTube

Google Drive link to messages
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4555 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:51 am to
quote:

At first I found it wierd too, but thinking on it more I don't find it all that alarming she waited when you look at it from her perspective. She didn't know there was even a problem, much less anyone had been murdered, until after the fact. She saw a man in a house known for having folks in and out.


I agree to an extent but it’s not like Bryan was leisurely walking out. I have to imagine he was panicked leaving with adrenaline pumping. I mean maybe he walked out cool calm and collected but seems odd. Regardless of party house or not, him leaving in a hurry would be concerning regardless.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5502 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:52 am to
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InsideLooking


quote:

outside looking


If they are really him it's fasanting. Outside looking in at a crime before he had committed one, then he is looking at if from the inside after he committed it?
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