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re: ICE has a chance to do the funniest thing

Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:40 pm to
That sounds good to me

What do we do with the millions that are already here and have no interest in a difficult path to citizenship?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:42 pm to
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What do we do with the millions that are already here and have no interest in a difficult path to citizenship?


Focus on those with a criminal record and naturalize with not all rights of citizens is the most sensible solution
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:42 pm to
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That sounds good to me

What do we do with the millions that are already here and have no interest in a difficult path to citizenship?


If they don’t want to pursue a legal avenue if offered for them, then deport them. But they should at least be given an opportunity. If they’re truly “bad hombres” the current vetting process would weed that out through background checks, interviews, etc.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:42 pm to
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imaginary border


wow, what an asinine comment. frick you
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9800 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:43 pm to
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You really think people are completing asylum applications walking up to the border on foot?


They CLAIM asylum and it's up to Border Patrol to let them in or not.


Watch Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan who did a whole episode on the process. You might learn something. LINK
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13492 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Often times, no

These people are all already here, and that’s the problem with 90% of you retards argument. Live in reality, we aren’t going to be able to round up 10s of millions of people and get them out of here… for a million reasons. So can we stop acting like idiots and find a sensible realistic solution to a very real problem?

Or we can keep making idiotic tik toks that do nothing so we can rabble rabble with the people we already know agree with us.

So fricking dumb


We've had the chance, in real time, to watch the pendulum swing back and forth since 2015 depending on who won the election from Trump 1.0 deportation efforts (which was mostly moderate) to Biden's lax border and programs like CHNV parole that was filed with fraud to Trump 2.0 which is extremely harsh.

The last 11 months have been going all in on executive power like there won't ever be another president that isn't a MAGA ideologue. There has been no codified changes to the immigration law or policy, and if they have any hope of doing it the clock is running out before 2026. The pendulum is going to swing back in 2028 and it will make Biden's term look like he took the border serious. Even as pro-immigration as I am, that is not good for the country.

But lol the libs got pwned and we got some Ice Ice Baby TikToks!
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:45 pm to
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They CLAIM asylum and it's up to Border Patrol to let them in or not.


You can just enter the country and claim asylum, and libtards like yourself starting granting it based on economic hardship and other bullshite.

The point still stands that you said asylum seekers speak to representatives of the government upon entry into the country. That’s inarguable untrue. They could I suppose, but there’s absolutely not requirement to do so.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13492 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:46 pm to
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do you have some examples of how long they were here and when they were vetted?



If they are naturalizing they had to have been a resident for 5 years. Who was president 5 years ago when they filed their application for their residency?

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9800 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:46 pm to
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You can just enter the country and claim asylum, and libtards like yourself starting granting it based on economic hardship and other bullshite.

The point still stands that you said asylum seekers speak to representatives of the government upon entry into the country. That’s inarguable untrue. They could I suppose, but there’s absolutely not requirement to do so.


Is a US Border Patrol agent not a representative of the US government?


See, now you're just playing games with words because you can't admit you were wrong. Sad!
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22071 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:47 pm to
I defend the people who do things legally, and I'm uncomfortable with the dehumanization and mocking of the illegal ones being deported, but asylum has absolutely been used as a crutch to clog up the system. There's no reason why people should be paying traffickers to navigate them from Venezuela to the US to claim asylum.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Is a US Border Patrol agent not a representative of the US government?


Asylum seekers are under no obligation to speak to border patrol agents when entering the country like you stated dumbass

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See, now you're just playing games with words because you can't admit you were wrong. Sad!


Words are important. Yours were wrong
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59071 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:49 pm to
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I defend the people who do things legally, and I'm uncomfortable with the dehumanization and mocking of the illegal ones being deported, but asylum has absolutely been used as a crutch to clog up the system
I’m critical of the process for those to do it legally, and think we severely limit legal immigration, and I also don’t like the mocking and dehumanization. It’s completely unnecessary
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9800 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:49 pm to
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asylum has absolutely been used as a crutch


You'll get no argument from me. I truly have no idea what the Biden administration was thinking. Only thing I can think of is they were kowtowing to the loud, online minority and mistook them as representative of what Americans, most dems included, actually wanted.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:51 pm to
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I truly have no idea what the Biden administration was thinking. Only thing I can think of is they were kowtowing to the loud, online minority and mistook them as representative of what Americans, most dems included, actually wanted.


I know exactly what they were doing. They were securing votes.

But I’m not a retard
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138137 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:51 pm to
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Why??? Do you think Jesus would support mocking, terrorizing, or making a joke about a group of people who are facing “hard times”? Or do you think that’s a very Christian thing to do?


Are you actually a Christian or are you just here to use your perceived interpretation of Christianity against Christians to impose your political beliefs on them like every other disingenuous left wing shitbag?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9800 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Asylum seekers are under no obligation to speak to border patrol agents when entering the country like you stated dumbass



There ya go again, adding words I didn't type.

I said most of these "illegals" spoke with border patrol agents and claimed asylum at the border. This is true of most of the people who came in under the Biden admin. This is LITERALLY how they count and report border crossings.

If you're caught jumping the border, you get deported. You can't claim asylum while in the back of a CBP truck arrested for border jumping.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13492 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:53 pm to
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That’s not what that means and libs changed what qualifies as “asylum” to include economic hardship which is total bullshite. Any nation in the world has less economic prosperity so it can be used as a tool to grant anyone asylum they want.



That's actually not true legally speaking. There is no BIA or circuit precedent that recognizes economic hardship as a basis for asylum. There is some very specific law on situations where severe economic restrictions can constitute persecution but very rare.

Now that isn't to say that the left doesn't use terms like "economic refugee" and "climate refugee" but those aren't currently recognized legal concepts.

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Asylum is without argument being abused


When Sessions was AG he began to address that issue with border crossings. Biden mostly ignored it for the first 3 years of his presidency, and then when he was getting hammered in the polls in early 2024 they started ramping back up the Trump 1.0 use of Credible Fear Interviews and not issuing general parole. Biden also implemented the Circumvention of Lawful Pathway rule which is still in effect that if made you ineligible, but for a few exceptions, if you entered at a place besides a port of entry.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:57 pm to
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There ya go again, adding words I didn't type.


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Uh, that's exactly what seeking asylum means. They met with an American official at the border and made a case to ask for protection via entry to the United States


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I said most of these "illegals" spoke with border patrol agents and claimed asylum at the border.


This isn’t true either, but even if it was it would be disingenuous when considering the neuterizarion of border patrol over Biden.

There are 2.2 million asylum applications in the US, so no, “most” did not tell border patrol they were seeking asylum.

You’re a fricking retard buddy



Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Now that isn't to say that the left doesn't use terms like "economic refugee" and "climate refugee" but those aren't currently recognized legal concepts.


Does that really matter when you rule by executive order?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49950 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:00 pm to
How easy would we have to make the process to get these “good hombres” to want to get their asses in gear?

They had a good thing going for awhile
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