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re: I was a member of the jury on the Garrett Ward trial. AMA.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:40 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:40 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:IANAL, but I wouldn't think so in that case. But that's not what happened here.
Just seems like that could happen to anybody. If some old dude is trying to rob me and I throw a punch he falls and hits his head and dies I'm going to jail for manslaughter if I have no way to prove he was robbing me?
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:45 pm to Jake88
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This is completely incorrect.
Which part. Be specific.
The situation is that no witness seems to have seen the precipitating cause of the fight and video evidence from the hotel either doesn't exist or it was not allowed. The D.A. himself said it was unnecessary to see, so one would assume it exists.
All any person has testified is that they saw Ward beating up Jackson. In all seriousness, I will retract that statement if it's wrong.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:47 pm to Reluctantjuror
As others have i asked I would really like to know.
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Did you wear any Perlis clothing at any point during the trial?
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:52 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:Slim to no chance.
I'm sure he will win an appeal
quote:Are you dim?
But regardless you don't lock someone up for 30 years for being an a-hole
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:53 pm to HouseMom
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All any person has testified is that they saw Ward beating up Jackson
No one is debating Ward beat Jackson and he died. He was not acting in self defense beating a defenseless frail old man to the point where he died from brain injuries, not sure what youre getting so hung up on
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:54 pm to AlextheBodacious
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Where is the doubt though?
Sounds like there's ample room for it. Based on what I read in this thread, I have doubts. You should too.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I have doubts.
What specifically are those doubts?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Sounds like there's ample room for it. Based on what I read in this thread, I have doubts. You should too
What do you have doubt about?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Based on what I read in this thread, I have doubts. You should too.
What are your doubts and why do you have them?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:59 pm to HouseMom
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The situation is that no witness seems to have seen the precipitating cause of the fight and video evidence from the hotel either doesn't exist or it was not allowed. The D.A. himself said it was unnecessary to see,
Yep, thats a big red flag for me.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, thats a big red flag for me.
Ditto
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, thats a big red flag for me.
What does the DA have to do with a guy who was beaten to death by a another guy who had zero injuries who earlier in the night assaulted a female? Should they have let Ward walk?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Ward killed a man and was not able to give a believable reason for doing so. The prosecution was able to disprove the knife attack so why should we believe any of the Ward’s story? There were credible witnesses who saw the attack long enough to say Ward took it too far and doctors have determined that the fatal blow was a kick to the head that the victim received while on the ground after asking for help.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:09 pm to hubertcumberdale
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not sure what youre getting so hung up on
I guess the same thing the other posters are questioning with this case. Ward was out of his mind drunk. I've witnessed a boat load of fights in my life (thanks LSU in the 90's), and not one time have I seen a guy drunk and full of testosterone just magically stop punching a guy in a fight. They're always pulled off by friends or bouncers.
If Ward, who had been robbed at knife-point a few months earlier, thought he was being robbed again, it makes much more sense as to why he went full throttle on Jackson. A 60 year old man is not exactly elderly, and it was the middle of the night and presumably dark.
Just a weird story, in my opinion. I realize others do not think this way.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:12 pm to HouseMom
quote:If video exists, and if it is at all beneficial to Ward, do you think there is any chance the defense would just forget about it?
The situation is that no witness seems to have seen the precipitating cause of the fight and video evidence from the hotel either doesn't exist or it was not allowed. The D.A. himself said it was unnecessary to see, so one would assume it exists.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:12 pm to HouseMom
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who had been robbed at knife-point a few months earlier,
Wasn't there a witness early on that said he was going thru Wards pockets when Ward came to?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:13 pm to Korkstand
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If video exists, and if it is at all beneficial to Ward, do you think there is any chance the defense would just forget about it?
Or they never got it. ??
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:13 pm to hubertcumberdale
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What does the DA have to do with a guy who was beaten to death by a another guy
Ignoring the cause of the fight, who instigated, who threatened who.. .
Which is kind of a big deal. If all you base on is result, then all homicides are murders. They aren't.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:13 pm to HouseMom
quote:That is pretty much never a valid defense.
Ward was out of his mind drunk.
quote:Thankfully cooler heads do prevent many manslaughter charges like this.
I've witnessed a boat load of fights in my life (thanks LSU in the 90's), and not one time have I seen a guy drunk and full of testosterone just magically stop punching a guy in a fight. They're always pulled off by friends or bouncers.
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