re: I walked death row today G-Block at Jackson State Prison in Georgia.

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Curious to know with all those "facts" if you've also included those that got off on a technicality yet are grouped in as "innocent".

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Yes, they include technicalities like key witnesses finally being heard when they said the suspect was not the person they saw. prosecutors willfully withholding exculpatory evidence, police ignoring confessions from one party while coercing confessions from others....there is a laundry list of reasons that are "technical" in nature....and should not occur in a case where the state is seeking to dole out the ultimate penalty in name of the people. I understand that a jailhouse snitch whose sentence is reduced because he testifies that someone told him in prison that they killed someone is perfectly OK for far too many of us to kill a person but the standard should be far higher than that if we are going to allow the state to kill people in our name. Bloodlust aside its really too much power to hand over to the state, and its amazing that so many people who are firmly convinced that the state is completely corrupt and can do nothing correctly can indeed find guilty people and execute them with out any possibility of the state making a mistake of being willfully obtuse in the investigation and prosecution and execution....


Meanwhile the actual criminal is still on the street and committing more crimes....but god dammit we killed SOMEBODY for it and thats all that really matters....

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I don't know if we can ever get it completely perfect, but I would wager the innocent number is closer to 1 in 250 or 1 in 1000 than it is 1 in 50 as we sit today in 2025.

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So is one in 1000 acceptable? Why? There is no indication that execution is a significant deterrent to crime....no study ever conducted concluded otherwise. Fiscally the death penalty is several times less efficient than life without parole and from a punishment standpoint it is, at best, a push in the degree of severity of punishment between life without parole in a prison and death, which many see as more humane than life without parole.

The only logical answer for continuing the practice of executing people is blood lust. It does not deter crime, it is more expensive than prison and it is arguably less severe a punishment than life without parole....

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So what's your want?...stop the death penalty?

BTW - people who see nothing wrong with the percentage of babies killed in abortions, shouldn't get on a high horse about the small percentages of criminals getting their due, even if to harsh. None of society's "good people" are getting rounded up, and getting the death penalty.

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Yes, I think we should stop executing people. It is simply too much power to hand over to the state. It is pretty universally agreed that the state is, at best, inefficient and prone to making mistakes. How this applies to the water department and not the sheriffs department is beyond me.

I don't like the thought of abortion either, for what its worth. I would much prefer any baby conceived be given a chance to live. I absolutely do not think the state should be deciding which pregnancy MUST be terminated.

Granting the state the power to end life is simply too much power in my opinion. Given the propensity for the state to over step, to disregard evidence because they solved the case in 2 minutes and nothing is going to change their mind and willfully getting rid of or planting evidence the state does not have a track record of convicting people of jaywalking that warrants the state collecting fines for jaywalking...the track record of botched capital trials is far worse and far more serious.

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I walked death row today G-Block at Jackson State Prison in Georgia.

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Les Miles has completely lost control of the George State Prison system.

Welcome to Tigerdroppings John Grisham.

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So is one in 1000 acceptable? Why?

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Last year 26 people were sentenced to death. If we are talking about 1 in 1,000, that would be 1 person every 40 years. Are we "ok" with that? No. Are we making meaningful policy changes for something so infrequent? Also probably not. Its like not using a drug with a very low instance of some side effect. It doesn't mean we are ok with the side effect, but sometimes you live with things.

Realistically we will eventually get to a point where the death penalty is so rare that we are only using it in cases of absolute certainty. We may already be there, tbh.

bs, having walked in prisons and death rows many times its not that bad. But I guess they could sense your fear

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Last year 26 people were sentenced to death. If we are talking about 1 in 1,000, that would be 1 person every 40 years. Are we "ok" with that? No. Are we making meaningful policy changes for something so infrequent? Also probably not. Its like not using a drug with a very low instance of some side effect. It doesn't mean we are ok with the side effect, but sometimes you live with things.

Realistically we will eventually get to a point where the death penalty is so rare that we are only using it in cases of absolute certainty. We may already be there, tbh.

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The actual data is that one in 50 are wrongfully convicted of a capital crime in this country. Not one in 1000. I in 50 since 1973 have been released from death row because of new evidence or corrupt prosecutors railroading someone into death row and allowing the actual criminal to continue a life of crime....but by all means lets kill someone, even if they may well be innocent, because it satisfies some emotion in us and to hell with innocence.

I just can't get there. Probably has something to do with my being an atheist but I simply can't be satisifed with 1 in 50 or 1 in 1000 innocent people dying at the hands of the state in order to punish a small % of criminals.

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yeah I guess im an a-hole for thinking executing innocent people is not an acceptable price to pay for mostly executing the guilty

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I don't know if you are an a-hole or not but if you are OK with an innocent person dying so we can execute the guilty I would say there is a damned good chance you are indeed an a-hole.....

Safety first on death row!

Not ironic at all.