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re: I lost a good friend to Covid this morning. Was his progression typical?

Posted on 2/6/22 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 5:24 pm to
Sounds similar to what happened to a fishing buddy of mine. He was in the hospital for a month or so fighting COVID. He got well enough to be released and about 3 months later he’s back in with pneumonia. He’s still fighting it.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 5:31 pm to
I know of a couple of cases like that. It’s almost like there is no protocol to cure the Wuhan Virus. There is a protocol in place to fleece the insurance companies and send you on your way. If you make it you make it. If not, you die.
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 5:52 pm to
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I suppose you mean a patient who had seemingly overcomes COVID and then sort of regresses. Yes we have seen it


I’ve heard of more than a few folks who got sick and seemed to be getting better after several days, but then they relapsed and ended up on a vent or dead.
Posted by Johnny Roastbeef
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 5:56 pm to
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seemed to be improving. Then a couple of days ago things took a turn for the worse, and by this morning he was dead.


Sounds like the same thing happened to a guy I worked with who passed in September. He was in ICU for weeks and was improving. Then suddenly he died.

He was overweight, smoked, and unvaccinated.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 5:57 pm to
All I know from tracking all the employees in my company over the last 2 years is that it definitely attacks some people more than others. All our fatal and/or most serious cases so far have been been older, un-vaxed with other issues such a diabetes or obesity etc.

I dont wish a few weeks on a vent on before passing on anybody. It is brutal on the families as well.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:01 pm to
It's not atypical. I can say though that some doctors don't know what they're doing with covid - don't keep up with the literature, are afraid to try certain things, etc. Fluvoxamine is a good example, you still have some physicians refusing to add it to regimens.

with covid especially in primary / acute care, etc, the literature has new additions constantly. you have to keep up with it.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 6:03 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:06 pm to
My aunt in New Orleans passed away from covid a few days ago. She was 70 and never really been in hospital for anything. She wanted to die though. She requested to be taken off of oxygen after a number of days and she died the same day they took her off. My mother is not handling it well at all. It's sad. I am sorry for your loss.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:07 pm to
I don't pretend to be anything of a medical professional at all.

But from the many stories I've read online relating to Covid, I have seen this sort of thing before. A patient is in the hospital struggling with Covid. At some point they seem to be improving. The next thing you know everything deep dives seemingly out of nowhere, and unfortunately, death.

I don't know what's the reason for that, but very sad nonetheless.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:12 pm to
The only two people I know that died for better in the days before and were about to be released.

Seems really important to stay on top on the OX levels.

Sorry about your friend.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:17 pm to
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Thanks Jones. Not looking for medical opinions, just anecdotal experiences. He got worse, he got better, then died. Is that typical? We all thought the guy was out of the woods.


Some people who get covid end up getting blood clots. Probably because when they have covid they are very tired and do not move around very much. This can also cause pneumonia to develop.
A person could show improvement, and die of a blood clot. An autopsy would be needed to confirm.

If someone gets covid, it is recommended to take one aspirin daily (unless you have a blood condition that wont allow it) for 6 weeks to prevent clots from developing. Walking a little frequently will also help, but don't over do it. Try walking 20 yards and back a few times daily. Clots can develop by sitting all day and rarely walking. This is not good for the lungs either.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:18 pm to
Very similar to what I’ve seen in 3 cases.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:19 pm to
I knew someone who was in the icu from covid for about a month. Was on the vent, then came off, seemed like he was going to make it, then all the sudden, both of his lungs collapsed, and he was never able to recover from it. Passed away the next day. It’s a strange virus man.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:23 pm to
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both of his lungs collapsed, and he was never able to recover from it. Passed away the next day. It’s a strange virus man.


When someone is removed from a vent, they need to do a CAT scant look at the lungs to determine how damaged they are. If significant damage, then they need to use a protocol that helps them heal their lungs.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:48 pm to
I don't know how relevant it is here but my wife talks about end-of-life rallies fairly often. Usually, they are a day or two not what seems like a week in this case. A patient appears to get significantly better becomes very lucid and the family and friends all get very excited then they fall off a cliff usually right before or during the time my wife is rounding in the early morning.

Sorry for the loss of your friend.
Posted by immobileman
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:50 pm to
Sorry for your loss. The only antidotal perspective I have is the hospitals seem to be in it for the $ not your health.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5790 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:52 pm to
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He went in the hospital in Los Angeles on December 27 and never came out. Things got really bad by January 17, but by January 27 he was out of the Covid ward and seemed to be improving. Then a couple of days ago things took a turn for the worse, and by this morning he was dead.

Is that typical?



First sorry for loss of friend.

Not typical for Covid in general with anyone I know including some with existing issues. It hasn’t been typical for few I have known that went to hospital, but no one I know stayed in a hospital that long.

At more than a month in a hospital it may be more typical for the length of stay. With any illness causing that long of a hospitalization there has to have been a hard roll of body and body systems. Whether the same virus (or another strain as can’t remember exactly when cdc overestimated omicron taking over and had to restate a lower estimate some time in early December I think) or something else at time of improvement your friend was probably still very susceptible to catching something or relapse.

Not sure if anything recently published on long Covid, but I remember reading some articles that was speculating it sometimes had to do with reactivating a dormant virus like Epstein-Barr. In the cases I read about no one was as sick as your friend just had it for a while, but thinking about length of stay with a weakened body from stay, stress from stay, stressed immunity system (also hyper immunity response), stressed lungs, and then throw in any medicines that may also affected immunity reaction that they may have tried over a month I could see something old coming back as well as just being susceptible to catching something else or having other issues from long stay in hospital.
This post was edited on 2/6/22 at 6:56 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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99925 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:53 pm to
While she's didn't pass, the SO's ex-wife (unvaccinated, comorbities) got it, went in the hospital for a day, and then improved. Then about three days later she ended up back in the hospital for 5 days and was close to going on a vent.

Thankfully she came out of it but she's still struggling with long COVID issues almost two months later.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 6:57 pm to


Was he on Remdisovir protocol.
It kills 30%

Sorry for your loss.
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:02 pm to
I’m sorry.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4707 posts
Posted on 2/6/22 at 7:13 pm to
Its certainly not typical but happens. My mother in law caught it September of 2020, hospitalized a week later in the ICU. Her O2 kept dropping from secondary double pneumonia, so they placed her in a coma on a vent. After a month, they woke her up and things were improving in small increments. Started all kinds of daily therapy in a long term care facility.

She looked to be over the worst and moving into recovery. Three weeks later, she woke up that morning and told my wife something was wrong. Within 2 hours, she spiked a fever, all of her vitals and labs started going downhill again, she went into multi organ system failure and passed away in the blink of an eye.

I’m sorry for your loss.
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