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Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:32 am to SidewalkDawg
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That's very vacuous. Care to elaborate? Do you count churches, preachers/priests as a threat to religion.
Those who commit fraud and pretend to be men of God in order to steal from people (see Jimmy Swaggart) really damage Christianity for everyone.
Those who use their positions in the church to abuse others (Catholic molestation scandals) absolutely hurt Christianity.
Anything involving the church that shows church personnel as corrupt, greedy, or evil drives people away.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:34 am to BigEdLSU
The biggest threat to any religion is education and free exchange of information.
It is a lot harder to "know" that the Jesus tale is true when you are aware that you would be an entirely different religion had you been born in a different time or place.
It is a lot harder to "know" that the Jesus tale is true when you are aware that you would be an entirely different religion had you been born in a different time or place.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 7:36 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:35 am to XxDRS
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I'm assuming that's a question despite the punctuation, but to answer it, yes.
Your powers of deduction are astounding. I'm glad you were able to figure out this tough enigma.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:36 am to SidewalkDawg
And I'm glad you made me look up the word "vacuous" at seven thirty in the fricking morning. Hadn't heard that in awhile, good on you college boy.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:37 am to BigEdLSU
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What's the biggest threat to Christianity?
apathetic people who accept what they are told without doing any personal research.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:39 am to XxDRS
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And I'm glad you made me look up the word "vacuous" at seven thirty in the fricking morning. Hadn't heard that in awhile, good on you college boy.
fair enough.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:39 am to BigEdLSU
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:40 am to Tigerlaff
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It is a lot harder to "know" that the Jesus tale is true when you are aware that you would be an entirely different religion had you been born in a different time or place.
And that there are some strikingly similar stories
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:46 am to kywildcatfanone
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apathetic people who accept what they are told without doing any personal research.
Ditto. You might have been going the other way with this, but it's a big problem in the church and was something Paul even warned Christians about in the Bible. Believers who will attach themselves to a personality and basically turn them into an idol, taking everything they say as truth. It's why Olsteen has even gotten as big as he is. If the people that follow him would even OPEN the Bible, they'd sniff his garbage out quickly. Prosperity gospel is super damaging.
Then you have the backwood old school church goers who still believe that God hates figs and live to condemn non believers. It's so frustrating to see because they tend to have the loudest voice, so that's what everyone else sees when they think of the Christian church, so who's going to get on board with that.
And for all of the "intelligence" and "education" answers here, I'd love if people like Ravi Zacharias, David Platt, and John Piper got more "air time" over the Olsteens and Robertsons of the wold.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:46 am to TigerBait1127
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And that there are some strikingly similar stories
Yes it's almost like these different cultures were all trying to explain things they could not understand at the time, huh.. Imagine that.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:47 am to Tigerlaff
It's pretty well excepted that a man named Jesus existed back in that time. What people don't want to believe are the stories about what he did and who he was.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:54 am to sicboy
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It's pretty well excepted that a man named Jesus existed back in that time.
And with that terrific example of irony, I rest my case. Education is essential.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:55 am to sicboy
The issue is that his story is a basic Hollywood remake
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Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:59 am to Salmon
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education
This is a common idea that is spread around, basically claiming that you cannot be intelligent nor educated and have faith. I think this is a bit of a false narrative. Certainly there are people in colleges and universities who either lack faith or fall away from their faith but you must question whether they had much faith to begin with.
In my major I've spent tons of time in biology classes. In my opinion, becoming more educated (in this case learning about the complexities of living things) has actually solidified my faith.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:06 am to Mattwells90
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but you must question whether they had much faith to begin with.
So they had less bias going in?
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This is a common idea that is spread around, basically claiming that you cannot be intelligent nor educated and have faith. I think this is a bit of a false narrative.
I don't think that is true at all.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:08 am to Mattwells90
No one here is saying that you can't be educated and religious. It is a lot easier to be religious if you are uneducated.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:12 am to Mattwells90
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This is a common idea that is spread around, basically claiming that you cannot be intelligent nor educated and have faith. I think this is a bit of a false narrative. Certainly there are people in colleges and universities who either lack faith or fall away from their faith but you must question whether they had much faith to begin with. In my major I've spent tons of time in biology classes. In my opinion, becoming more educated (in this case learning about the complexities of living things) has actually solidified my faith.
Thanks bro. You said what I was thinking.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 8:13 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:24 am to BigEdLSU
Religious fundamentalists are the biggest threat to Christianity. They make the most noise and generally act like assholes. The best part is when they get called out on their assholishness all of a sudden they are being persecuted for their faith. No they're being persecuted for being an extreme a-hole
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Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:28 am to BigEdLSU
It ebbs and flows. It will come back around when the educated and enlightened have torn the whole fricking country down to pile of ruins and they start looking around for answers. We'll see shortly because it is certainly crumbling. I just pity the morons who mistake their brainwashing for education and their stupidity for enlightenment.
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