re: I have yet to receive a catalog with the word ‘Christmas’ on the cover

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The company I work for is having a ”holiday party”

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Because we are ruled by politically correct HR departments and predatory lawyers.

this topic is an OT Moderate / Atheist bat signal. They are offended you would even suggest asking this question.

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this topic is an OT Moderate / Atheist bat signal. They are offended you would even suggest asking this question.

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No we aren’t; we find it fricking hilarious that some Christians are so lacking in self awareness that they bitch when they aren’t directly and specifically catered to as though it’s an indication that they are being discriminated against

Eta: Speaking as a member of the OT Atheist Delegation. The OT Moderate Delegation can speak for itself if it so chooses

Agree 100%. Attack on America

Channukah is actually celebrated by all Jews. They give gifts. Light candles and have dinners. It's not Yom Kippur or Rosh Hassanah but it's still big.
Easter is the biggest holiday for practicing Christians. But when you take in secular holidays it's 4th or 5th

Belle, if I give the cashier at Kroger shite for telling me “Happy Holidays,” then you’ve got a point. She wished me well, and I ought to do the same.

But I can celebrate the birth of Christ and still chuckle at a “holiday tree lighting.” You knew which holiday they meant. So did I. What exactly is out of step with Christmas about asking why they couldn’t just call it a Christmas tree?

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Josh, take the “holiday tree lighting” example right above your post. What do you call that tree when you put it up in your own living room? If the answer is “Christmas tree,” who exactly are you catering to?

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I call it a Christmas tree (and Christmas lights), because I was raised a Christian in America, so that’s the cultural association I have. I’m not catering to anyone; I’m catering to my own cultural history.

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And if a company advertised a “holiday menorah lighting,” would a Jewish guy need to feel discriminated against to ask what happened to the word “Hanukkah”? Or could he just think the wording sounds goofy?

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I have no idea, though considering that Judaism is both a religion and a culture, that gets messy. Then again, one could argue that Christianity is now similar. I can ask my Jewish brother in law if you’d like, though

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grew up calling it a Christmas tree. I see an ad calling it a “holiday tree,” and I wonder who decided that sounded better. Which part of that takes a persecution complex, Josh?

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You can think it sounds better all you’d like; that doesn’t require a persecution complex. On the other hand, OP says he throws every catalog in the trash if it doesn’t say Christmas. Are you really saying you believe you and he are analogous?

To go outside directly answering your questions: humans have celebrated the winter solstice since time immemorial. Using evergreens in those celebrations goes back to time immemorial. In the early United States, Christians either heavily discouraged or outright banned the modern celebration of Christmas as secular and non-Biblical. So it kind of blows my mind that some Christians have apparently so heavily leaned into the secular parts of the holiday that anyone celebrating those secular bits without caring or acknowledging the religious bits is offensive to them. Again, not all, and apparently not you, but certainly some, including apparently the OP.

That’s a bit fricking wild to me

Fair enough, Belle. You were talking about the catalog, and I gave you a tree lighting.

But one line in the OP did make me laugh. “Order in time for the holiday.” Which holiday, Belle?

“Holiday 2026” could cover half the calendar for all I care. Once you’re telling me when to order, though, you’ve got a date in mind. If we both know which one, what’s so funny about asking why they didn’t just say Christmas?