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I have a friend from Michigan. He claims to be midwestern. WTF is this shite?

Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:43 pm
He says Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners. Someone please help understand this perception!
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:44 pm to
This is true. I don’t get it either
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:45 pm to
What else would they be?
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:46 pm to
Michigan has always been the mid-west in my experience.

Posted by GVT
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:46 pm to
Absolutely Midwestern
Posted by dirtsandwich
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:47 pm to

This map reflects the Midwestern United States as defined by the Census Bureau. Where would you say Michigan is located?
Posted by Fiddler crab
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Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:47 pm to
The internet agrees with me.

Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:48 pm to
Michigan is as Midwestern as Louisiana is Southern. It kinda has its' own vibe going on
Posted by Tammany Tom
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:48 pm to
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He says Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners. Someone please help understand this perception!


Did you not learn that in school?

Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin has always been considered the Mid West. Always.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:48 pm to
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He says Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners.


That’s because they are.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:48 pm to
In what world is Michigan not midwestern?

It’s designated that way by the US Census Bureau, and colloquially by nearly everyone except you apparently.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:49 pm to
Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, and the rest of the states to the Pacific Ocean are called the Western 11.

Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:51 pm to
From Detroit, it is about 600 miles to the Atlantic and 2100 to the pacific.

Math does not know the traditions of what something is called or what people feel something is. math just says what things are.

ETA: Detroit is about 80 miles east of Atlanta. Is Atlanta Midwest also? No.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:52 pm to
I don’t consider Kansas and Nebraska to be Midwestern. That’s the Heartland
Posted by Bruco
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:53 pm to
The only way Michigan is not Midwest is if you think the Great Lakes states are a separate and distinct area
Posted by tigerbru17
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:55 pm to
I live in the northeast. South Jersey. Philadelphia is just about the last “northeast” city looking at the map. Everything west of that is Midwest. The majority of Pennsylvania is where is starts.

There is a strong difference.


Biggest wow moment for me was when I realized that Maryland is borderline “the south” amongst the locals. Coming from Louisiana and hearing “welcome to the south” was interesting.

—I should clarify. I am strictly speaking about the culture and social norms of the areas. For instance, Pittsburg is far more similar to, let’s say Cincinnati, than it is to any city from Philly/NJ up to Maine. Sure geographic area all of PA is considered the NE, but the west side is vastly different from eastern PA / Philly which begins “the northeast” when you are speaking about the people/society.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 3:06 am
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:56 pm to
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Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, and the rest of the states to the Pacific Ocean are called the Western 11.



I've never heard this.

I group ID, MT, WY, ND, and SD all together as Crackerstan.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:56 pm to
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Philadelphia is just about the last “northeast” city looking at the map. Everything west of that is Midwest. The majority of Pennsylvania is where is starts.


Jesus, is this the 1820s?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:57 pm to
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He says Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners. Someone please help understand this perception!


Whoever was supposed to teach you middle school geography failed miserably at their task and owes you an apology.
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