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re: I feel much safer in Baton Rouge today
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:45 pm to BilJ
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:45 pm to BilJ
BRPD and all law enforcement don't care about getting marijuana off the streets with these "busts". Their only goal is to get as much money and property as they can get through asset forfeiture laws. In this case they made an easy $12,000 in cash. If the guy had been driving they would have taken his car as well.
Do you see them going after meth labs with the same vigor as marijuana busts? Of course not, there's not enough of an incentive ($$$) in meth lab raids as marijuana. Not to mention that it's far safer going after marijuana dealers and users than it is meth heads. It's all about the money. It's one reason why law enforcement doesn't want marijuana legalized. You think they want to cut off that cash cow that is asset forfeitures??
Force law enforcement to donate all money and property seized through asset forfeiture laws to charity and see how quickly these type of busts go away.
Do you see them going after meth labs with the same vigor as marijuana busts? Of course not, there's not enough of an incentive ($$$) in meth lab raids as marijuana. Not to mention that it's far safer going after marijuana dealers and users than it is meth heads. It's all about the money. It's one reason why law enforcement doesn't want marijuana legalized. You think they want to cut off that cash cow that is asset forfeitures??
Force law enforcement to donate all money and property seized through asset forfeiture laws to charity and see how quickly these type of busts go away.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:46 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
Serious question, is 18 people dying in a year from heroin a lot?
I get that 18 is much greater than 4 percentage-wise, but is the almost 400% increase why it is a "major" problem?
I get that 18 is much greater than 4 percentage-wise, but is the almost 400% increase why it is a "major" problem?
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:48 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
gotcha. I figured heroin was a pretty big step and not exactly a recreational/party type drug. Thats why I asked. I figure weed is pretty universally used. coke is for people with money. couldn't figure where heroin fit in.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:53 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:name some professionals that do heroin.
It isn't confined to any particular demographic. It's largely due to people who got hooked on pain relievers following an accident or injury of some sort. It spans all ages, races, professions, etc. It's a major issue.
Heroin deaths in East Baton Rouge nearly quadruple
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:54 pm to lsudude24
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Not to mention that it's far safer going after marijuana dealers and users
THREE OFFICERS SHOT, ONE FATALLY
At approximately 3:15pm today detectives of the Baton Rouge Police Department Narcotics Division were attempting to execute a search warrant at 3634 Capital Heights.
The detectives knocked and identified themselves as police officers but the lone occupant refused to open the door, requiring the investigators to make a forcible entry.
As the detectives entered the residence they came under fire from the suspect. All three detectives were struck. At least one returned fire and the suspect was also hit.
DETECTIVE TERRY MELANCON, 31, sustained a fatal wound and died at the scene. DETECTIVES DENNIS SMITH, 41, and NEAL NOEL, 35, were wounded and transported to the Baton Rouge General Medical Center for treatment of gunshot wounds. Smith was later transferred to another local hospital.
The suspect was transported to the Baton Rouge General Medical Center where he subsequently died of his wounds.
The detectives were executing a search warrant obtained after an investigation showed marijuana was being distributed from the THREE OFFICERS SHOT, ONE FATALLY
At approximately 3:15pm today detectives of the Baton Rouge Police Department Narcotics Division were attempting to execute a search warrant at 3634 Capital Heights.
The detectives knocked and identified themselves as police officers but the lone occupant refused to open the door, requiring the investigators to make a forcible entry.
As the detectives entered the residence they came under fire from the suspect. All three detectives were struck. At least one returned fire and the suspect was also hit.
DETECTIVE TERRY MELANCON, 31, sustained a fatal wound and died at the scene. DETECTIVES DENNIS SMITH, 41, and NEAL NOEL, 35, were wounded and transported to the Baton Rouge General Medical Center for treatment of gunshot wounds. Smith was later transferred to another local hospital.
The suspect was transported to the Baton Rouge General Medical Center where he subsequently died of his wounds.
The detectives were executing a search warrant obtained after an investigation showed marijuana was being distributed from the residence.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:54 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Not sure. I guess you'd have to look at the rates from other cities of similar size. But it is a nationwide epidemic, and many people blame the pharma industry for pushing pain killers and doctors for prescribing them too liberally.
Serious question, is 18 people dying in a year from heroin a lot?
quote:Yeah, the surge in deaths seems to be the issue. There are also many more heroin-related arrests, so the overall trend of usage has gone way upward.
I get that 18 is much greater than 4 percentage-wise, but is the almost 400% increase why it is a "major" problem?
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:57 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
I shall file that as my fun fact for the day. Thanks. 
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:59 pm to LNCHBOX
You got it.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:00 pm to BilJ
Crazy to think in other parts of the country people are making a legitimate living off of selling weed
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:11 pm to tke857
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Crazy to think in other parts of the country people are making a legitimate living off of selling weed
and being taxed heavily for their efforts. Saw an MSNBC show last night where a small "dealer" in Colorado was complaining about how the "big" guys had an unfair advantage cause they had the financial wherewithal to survive the taxes. Leave it to the IRS to frick up everything.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:15 pm to jbgleason
Had to go back 10 years to dig that one up I see. Meth busts are more dangerous and expensive for law enforcement. In many cases it costs more and takes more resources to make meth busts than marijuana busts. So going after marijuana is much more profitable. Case in point.......
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Responding to the operations can be costly and dangerous, with a high risk of fire and explosion, and is taking a toll on drug agents’ resources, said MDEA Cmdr. Peter Arno, who oversees northern Maine. Officials say dismantling a lab can cost the agency more than $10,000 and doesn’t include the cost borne by local police and fire departments that also respond to the scene.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:29 pm to BilJ
Stoners don't carry guns and shoot back...usually. Easy marks.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:30 pm to lsu480
Busting people for selling weed is the same as barbecuing Jews 
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:42 pm to N2cars
quote:
Yeah, I was actually surprised to see it wasn't wildly inflated like these busts usually are.
Me too
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:44 pm to junkfunky
From that article:
Circling back to LNCHBOX's earlier question about the number of deaths, I believe "only" +/-63 people were murdered in BR in 2014, so you have more than half that number dying from heroin the year prior. I guess that gives us a better feel of the magnitude.
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Heroin-related deaths in East Baton Rouge rose from five in 2012 to 34 in 2013, and the local detox center saw an increase from 74 heroin addicts admitted to the center in 2011 to 300 people in 2013.
Circling back to LNCHBOX's earlier question about the number of deaths, I believe "only" +/-63 people were murdered in BR in 2014, so you have more than half that number dying from heroin the year prior. I guess that gives us a better feel of the magnitude.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:45 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:
It isn't confined to any particular demographic. It's largely due to people who got hooked on pain relievers following an accident or injury of some sort. It spans all ages, races, professions, etc. It's a major issue.
I'd say its a nation wide epidemic, not just local
Posted on 1/6/15 at 2:02 pm to jg8623
quote:
I'd say its a nation wide epidemic, not just local
Since hydrocodone was recently changed to schedule two I would be willing to bet the heroin problem will get worse temporarily then maybe get better over time. Too bad for chronic pain sufferers though.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 2:10 pm to lsudude24
quote:
I feel much safer in Baton Rouge today
BRPD and all law enforcement don't care about getting marijuana off the streets with these "busts". Their only goal is to get as much money and property as they can get through asset forfeiture laws. In this case they made an easy $12,000 in cash. If the guy had been driving they would have taken his car as well.
Do you see them going after meth labs with the same vigor as marijuana busts? Of course not, there's not enough of an incentive ($$$) in meth lab raids as marijuana. Not to mention that it's far safer going after marijuana dealers and users than it is meth heads. It's all about the money. It's one reason why law enforcement doesn't want marijuana legalized....
Force law enforcement to donate all money and property seized through asset forfeiture laws to charity and see how quickly these type of busts go away.
Bingo. This guy knows. All about the money for the PD. they don't give a damn about safety.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 2:12 pm to jbgleason
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jbgleason
Just think, if marijuana were legal as it should be, none of this would have ever happened. The motherfricker wouldnt even been dealing pot since there would be no market for it.
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