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I am sensing a trend here
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:46 pm
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:47 pm to stout
Almost like medicine and information exchange is getting better
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:48 pm to stout
I think the Spanish Flu did not originate in China. Possibly in Kansas
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:48 pm to stout
People downvoting me for pointing out that the vast majority of bad viruses and plagues started in China
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:49 pm to stout
probably more like people wish everyone would just shut up about the shite
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:49 pm to stout
I downvoted you because the graphic didn’t call all of them “Chinese Virus”
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:49 pm to 1BamaRTR
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I think the Spanish Flu did not originate in China. Possibly in Kansas
There are argument as to where it actually started
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Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemic's geographic origin, with varying views as to the origin.[2]
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One of the few regions of the world seemingly less affected by the 1918 flu pandemic was China, where there may have been a comparatively mild flu season in 1918 (although this is disputed due to lack of data in the Warlord Period of China, see Around the globe). Multiple studies have documented that there were relatively few deaths from the flu in China compared to other regions of the world.[24][25][26] This has led to speculation that the 1918 flu pandemic originated in China.[27][25][28][29] The relatively mild flu season and lower rates of flu mortality in China in 1918 may be explained due to the fact that the Chinese population had already possessed acquired immunity to the flu virus. [30][27][25] However, a study by K.F. Cheng and P.C. Leung in 2006 has suggested it was more likely because the traditional Chinese medicine played an important role in prevention and treatment.[27]
In 1993, Claude Hannoun, the leading expert on the 1918 flu for the Pasteur Institute, asserted the former virus was likely to have come from China. It then mutated in the United States near Boston and from there spread to Brest, France, Europe's battlefields, Europe, and the world with Allied soldiers and sailors as the main disseminators.[31] He considered several other hypotheses of origin, such as Spain, Kansas and Brest, as being possible, but not likely. Political scientist Andrew Price-Smith published data from the Austrian archives suggesting the influenza had earlier origins, beginning in Austria in early 1917.[32]
In 2014, historian Mark Humphries argued that the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines might have been the source of the pandemic. Humphries, of the Memorial University of Newfoundland in St. John's, based his conclusions on newly unearthed records. He found archival evidence that a respiratory illness that struck northern China in November 1917 was identified a year later by Chinese health officials as identical to the Spanish flu.[33][34]
A report published in 2016 in the Journal of the Chinese Medical Association found no evidence that the 1918 virus was imported to Europe via Chinese and Southeast Asian soldiers and workers and instead found evidence of its circulation in Europe before the pandemic.[20] The 2016 study suggested that the low flu mortality rate (an estimated 1/1000) found among the Chinese and Southeast Asian workers in Europe meant that the deadly 1918 influenza pandemic could not have originated from those workers.[20]
A 2018 study of tissue slides and medical reports led by evolutionary biology professor Michael Worobey found evidence against the disease being spread by Chinese workers, noting that workers entered Europe through other routes that did not result in detectable spread, making them unlikely to have been the original hosts.[23]
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:50 pm to stout
Its not that this originated in China that pisses me off. Its that they had a chance to get on top of it and make a difference and they didn't. Lied about it for too long until it was too late. There needs to be a reckoning when this is all over.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:50 pm to Sun God
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I downvoted you because the graphic didn’t call all of them “Chinese Virus”
Trump is just doing that to piss the media off at this point
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:51 pm to stout
There needs to be some significant repercussions for China
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:51 pm to stout
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There are argument as to where it actually started
So you you don’t know it originated in China?
I’m not disagreeing that China is a breeding ground for a lot of these outbreaks but not likely that one
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:51 pm to stout
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There are argument as to where it actually started
So per your chart...when in doubt just blame China.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:51 pm to fallguy_1978
No doubt. That might be his only small enjoyment of each day
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:52 pm to stout
Its Chinese viruses....should prefix each one with Chinese...let the Dumbocrats call it racist
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:52 pm to 1BamaRTR
I didn't make the chart but read my edit above. There are valid assumptions as to arguing why it could have started in China.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:52 pm to stout
Careful, you’ll offend your CCP fanboys that lurk this site.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:53 pm to stout
How would WWI spread h1n1 if it started in China?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 1:53 pm to InwardJim
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So per your chart...when in doubt just blame China.
Yea because I am the one that did the studies and can trace the origin back to China
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