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re: I-12...Saw 18 wheeler run nissan off road .

Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
2047 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:09 pm to
When will people stay in their lane, put their phones down, drive safely.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16617 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:26 pm to
There was a bad wreck on that stretch of highway involving an 18 wheeler on Sunday. My wife was in the traffic jam and they were at a complete stop for a half hour. They have an inordinate number of 18 wheelers on I/12.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:27 pm to
For example. Basically put a smaller basin bridge over 10, make it for either just big rigs or just cars. Entrance is west of 99 and merges back onto 10 east of 99 somewhere. The center of downtown would be tricky but would insanely help the Houston traffic. Do this evaluation for all the major metro areas.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

For example. Basically put a smaller basin bridge over 10, make it for either just big rigs or just cars. Entrance is west of 99 and merges back onto 10 east of 99 somewhere. The center of downtown would be tricky but would insanely help the Houston traffic. Do this evaluation for all the major metro areas.


I don't follow you at all. I also don't really understand what you think this would solve that wouldn't be better solved by a bypass.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40312 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:50 pm to
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They have an inordinate number of 18 wheelers on I/12.


Interstates were made for interstate commerce.
Interstate commerce is carried out via tractor-trailer.
I-12 is part of an interstate that connects Pacific to Atlantic.

I can promise you that truck drivers don't want to drive around a bunch of a-hole commuters. Louisiana needs to build toll roads.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:50 pm to
Just a more direct route than a loop, which is what I am assuming you are referring to with a bypass. A large issue with the loop is the route and ROW, property buyouts, etc. You have none of that when using the existing route.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Just a more direct route than a loop, which is what I am assuming you are referring to with a bypass. A large issue with the loop os the route and ROW, property buyouts, etc. You have none if that when using the existing route.


Instead you have billions spent on mile and miles of bridges that will need to be maintained, that most residents don't like, that present their own environmental impacts, and will require additional ROW to construct and have them lead somewhere. You're very much oversimplifying what you are describing.

Keeping the trucks away from the population centers as much as possible is the better answer.
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2280 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:54 pm to
..worked as a road engineer in both the public and private sector. Most of my knowledge is in mill & overlay type projects though.

I drive that area of I-12 time to time and my biggest observation is trucks driving side by side for long distances, blocking the left lane for passing. It’s pretty much the preferred truck route to avoid I-10 through New Orleans. I don’t know that it’s a capacity issue. I do know the clover interchange at I-12 and airline is stupid. You have 400 ft of vehicles using the same lane to both enter and exit the interstate, which often involves weaving with trucks. That should have probably been a diamond interchange, imo.

Adding another lane may help, but without any regulation it also gives truck drivers another lane to block. There would probably need to be some type of signage/messaging instructing trucks to use specific lanes, and actually enforce it. Or have a designated truck route. Im assume they avoid 190 cause of all the stop lights.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:56 pm to
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make all 18 wheelers illegal on the interstates.

Until it is upgraded and deemed safe, legally that would make the roadway safer.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:05 pm to
Yes my explanation is an over simplification on a very complex problem/project. A loop is also not simple though. At this point, keeping big rigs away from commuters is not going to happen in most developed metro areas.

That being said the, maintenance, environmental impacts, etc. are items I am not familiar with which is why I lead with in my first post that it may be a stupid idea.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:06 pm to
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cutting the 18 wheelers off.

It's actually the exact opposite. Notice the next time you travel on that section of roadway. If you are passing in the left lane and approaching an 18-wheeler traveling in the right lane (who also wants to move to the left lane to pass), as soon as he put his blinker on - he is coming over in front of you.
Posted by mdw1969
SEC Country
Member since Jan 2013
889 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:07 am to
I drive OTR. It was sarcasm. Until you get all the foreigners from behind the wheel, it will remain unsafe. With that being said, you will still have accidents, just not as often, I would think. Also, another poster commented about cars/pick ups weaving in and out of traffic, that is a major problem. As well as these trucking companies governing the trucks to 65 mph.
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