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re: Hurricane Dorian - Headed to Canada

Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:51 am to
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:51 am to
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We're moving children to a safe space

Why are there children there? I missed many early projections, but I thought I remembered the Bahamas being in line of this storm for a few days. If idiot adults want to choose to stay, ok, but who would leave children there?
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 11:00 am
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14258 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:52 am to
quote:

11:40 am. Pounding. CRASHING. Boards prying off windows. We're moving children to a safe space, wrapping them in blankets. 969 mb. #DORIAN


And they have another 60 millibars of pressure drop to endure. Ouch.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131369 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:52 am to
What does wrapping blankets around the kids do?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:54 am to
There is one dude on periscope streaming in bahamas, but he's streaming in his place and you cant see anything, just little rain, where he's at. Nothing to see, really. Just talking and chit chatting with each other.

Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12377 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:55 am to
Sorry if already discussed - this guys have his freaking kids there?!?
Posted by CookieTiger
Member since Sep 2008
245 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:56 am to
Calms the scared child. I get where you are coming from, but having something to wrap around you in a scary situation makes you feel at least a little in control. And have a place to shut your eyes & hide. These kids probably don't have much to begin with. Sad & scary as hell anyway you look at it.
Posted by BigHoss
Offshore
Member since Apr 2010
3366 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:57 am to
Posted by CookieTiger
Member since Sep 2008
245 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:59 am to
Thanks Big Hoss. This is scary video. I accidentally hit down arrow. Won't let me undo. Sorry.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40295 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:59 am to
Also will somewhat protect you against broken glass and small flying debris
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:00 am to
Hope someone can get a picture when they are in the eye
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
41953 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:01 am to
https://www.wjhg.com/templates/2015_Fullscreen_Radar

Eye is on radar now. Drag the map.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:05 am to
Serial downvoter in here somewhere. frick you!
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:05 am to
Noaa 2 plane is done. AF302 looks to do one last eye pass then I am sure they will be done.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14258 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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Eye is on radar now


Looks like the chasers in Marsh Harbour are going to get in the eye shortly.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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just depends on the warmth of the water underneath it i guess

Correct. A hurricane can be modeled thermodynamically as a Carnot heat engine. The Carnot cycle is driven by a difference in temperature and is based on the temperature of the hot reservoir (ocean) and the temperature of the cold reservoir (atmosphere). If you know the temperature of both reservoirs, you can calculate the theroetical maximum work (rate of energy movement) that particular Carnot engine is capable of performing.

Now, because of conservation of energy, the rate at which a heat engine produces energy (work) must equal the rate at which energy is dissipated into the environment by the engine. If you know the size of the hurricane and the "friction factor" between it and the ocean (I use friction as a catch-all for all of the interactions between a hurricane and its surroundings here to simplify the explanation), you can calculate what wind speed would be required to dissipate energy at the same rate as it is produced by the engine, given the temperature differences. This would be the theoretical maximum wind speed. It's a concept similar to being able to predict a car's maximum speed given the power of its engine and how aerodynamic it is. When the car gets to a speed where the push of its engine equals the push of the air moving around the car, that's as fast as the car can go.

I'm not a meterologist, but I know the shite out of some thermodynamics and fluid mechanics, and that's the thermodynamic rationale for the theoretial maximum wind speed of a hurricane. I think it's about 180 or so mph in the Atlantic, given its maximum sea temps and about 200 in the Pacific because it's a little warmer. There have been outliers that went higher that are being studied to find out how.
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 11:08 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74936 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:08 am to
I would say that this storm has never "blown up". Dorian has shown almost continuous strengthening since becoming a tropical storm days ago. It has shrugged off dry air and moderate sheer at times without any significant weakening. It has been a steady build with little to no leveling off periods. It is not often you see a storm do this.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74936 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:13 am to
Well, shite. Thanks for that. Seriously!
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:14 am to
quote:

I'm not a meterologist, but I know the shite out of some thermodynamics and fluid mechanics, and that's the thermodynamic rationale for the theoretial maximum wind speed of a hurricane.


Thermo and fluids are pretty fundamental to meteorology. So yeah, you're explaination is on point.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74936 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:15 am to
Somebody is busy downvoting.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 11:15 am to
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Well, shite. Thanks for that. Seriously!

Now I'm gonna move out of the way and let the mets do their thing.
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