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re: Hunt for red October about to be for real?

Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2306 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:24 pm to
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the Pentagon knows exactly where it is
the pentagon is far too preoccupied with inclusive pronouns to bother with Russian submarine movements
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4589 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Captain Finlander: Now don't worry, ………if he fires one, I'll fire one. Ensign Ralston: [launching the rocket] Fire One! You asked for it, now name the movie.


Book ‘em Danno!

Watched The Bedford Incident a few weeks ago on TCM.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2598 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:14 pm to
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We know where it's at. It didn't just disappear.
We're probably following it right now.


I don’t believe you!

The U.S. MSM, the POTUS, the joint Chiefs, and the department of defense told me they had zero knowledge that the entirety of the Taliban and ISIS were descending upon Kabul. They told me a caravan of goat herders armed with AK-47’s & rocket launchers riding 30 y.o. Toyotas and mini bikes surprised and overwhelmed the US armed forces. We weren’t able to track this ragtag group of terrorists from space with a black budget in the billions, why would anyone believe they can track a Russian nuclear attack sub in the ocean depths?
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21167 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:26 pm to
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Gonna grab my board and go out doing what I love!



Big Wednesday, bro, it's gonna be the Great Swell of '22.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33191 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:30 pm to
verify distance to target.
quote:

One ping only


ETA: I remember "The Hunt for Pink October"


...on Spice.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 9:32 pm
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
2999 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:18 pm to
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USS Dallas is right behind it anyway. Quiet as a mouse.


Exactly, the Navy knows exactly where that piece of shite is. I won’t lose a wink of sleep over it.

I get the doubt on here WRT incompetence in government, but don’t confuse bureaucracy with the front line folks that actually care about doing their job.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98195 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:21 pm to
My BIL used to fly out there, shut down two engines and circle around for 12 hours at a time listening for those SOBs.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
2999 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:24 pm to
Was he a P-3 pilot?
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98195 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:34 pm to
P3 and right at the end transitioned to P8s.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69108 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:53 pm to
Right. Multiple US tests conducted at depth. If they really wanted to screw us they would do an updated Starfish Prime style space nuke.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5961 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:24 am to
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The drone can be deployed from the submarine at any time and detonated at a depth of 1 kilometer near a coastal city. Russian state media has claimed the device can create a 1,600-ft. wave that smashes into the coast and irradiates it.

Wonder how they calculated the water column weight above a detonation source point 1km down? Water is heavy, Ivan. And, must be the fastest sub in the world to quickly exit the blast zone's sea water pressure wave. Oops maybe not, that drone can't fly forever.

Our guys will have fun tracking this red herring.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27286 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:04 am to
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Officials warned that Russia may plan to test Belgorod's "Poseidon" weapons system, a drone equipped with a nuclear bomb that Russia has claimed is capable of creating a "radioactive tsunami," according to Italian media.


I would liked to have seen Montana.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 3:05 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30614 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 6:26 am to
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Exactly, the Navy knows exactly where that piece of shite is. I won’t lose a wink of sleep over it. I get the doubt on here WRT incompetence in government, but don’t confuse bureaucracy with the front line folks that actually care about doing their job.


Navy has had trouble with newer Russian attack subs
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 6:50 am to
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the device can create a 1,600-ft. wave




People have zero comprehension of the amount of energy needed to do shite like this. Even our most powerful devices are a mouse fart compared to what earth can dish out and as far as I know, there's never been a 1600 foot tidal wave. That's a third of a mile.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17950 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:00 am to
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Oops maybe not, that drone can't fly forever.

Why do you think a drone that would detonate a nuke a kilometer below the sea would ever fly?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29181 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:07 am to
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and as far as I know, there's never been a 1600 foot tidal wave. That's a third of a mile.


Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5961 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:51 am to
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Why do you think a drone that would detonate a nuke a kilometer below the sea would ever fly?

In the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle universe, for AUV's (i.e. Drone) the term "flight path" is used to denote the mission profile's pre-programmed navigation track at launch. I've never heard it called "swim" in either the Defense or Commercial sector. Subsea based systems of course don't fly in the air.

A large defense contractor developed one for commercial use that spun off a military version launched from torpedo tubes. I was on their commercial partner's engineering team, serving as my company's technical authority.

I've sailed on around 20 fast attack and boomer subs in my career, helping calibrate the Nav Systems, and their interface to Sonar and missile guidance systems. The Navy does this for every new build's commissioning sea trials, and again at major dry dock periods.

They are complex, fascinating and marvelous machines using technology the civilian world is largely not aware exists. My security clearance obligation survives, and doesn't allow me to discuss those. Much of it can be gleaned reading the right sources on the web, but not all.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17950 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:10 am to
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In the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle universe, for AUV's (i.e. Drone) the term "flight path" is used to denote the mission profile's pre-programmed navigation track at launch. I've never heard it called "swim" in either the Defense or Commercial sector. Subsea based systems of course don't fly in the air.


So do subs fly? If that's accepted nomenclature I'll have to accept it, until the civilian submarine populace expands and corrects this gross misuse of flight
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5961 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:22 am to
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So do subs fly?

Like surface ships, they "sail."

Welcome to the world of obscure engineering terminology.

The three letter (or more) military industry acronyms are the worst.

Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14209 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:28 am to
The ocean floor has been heavily seeded with listening devices out from every known Russian Naval base, (both submarine and boat base). We know every time a boat passes by our sensors, moving out to sea. Thankd to computer analysis of sound signatures, the sensors are good enough to not be fooled if a submarine is moving under a noisy surface vessel.

The boat referenced here was a known threat, before it was even completed and put to sea the first time. There is no way a US vessel is not creaping along beind the sub, lstening and learning all it is possible to learn about it.

Obviously, if the sub launched an underwater drone, we would know that. Hopefully we would react to it and have another vesssel ready to intercept the drone and take it out. Also, if the russian vessel approached the US coastline, we would be ready to stop it.
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