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re: How to not con black law students

Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:28 pm to


My boy ain't get conned.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:28 pm to
You don't need a mentor to tell you that schools with horrible employment rates and low bar passage numbers are bad. That's called common sense and responsibility.
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:29 pm to
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You have white friends that scored below acceptance standards yet got into top 10 schools?



Yep, because hey, a LSAT score isn't everything.

He got a 155 and got into a top 8 school in the 2017 rankings. Smartest guy I know. Works for a top 10-15 firm and probably made $250k out the gate.

Yep
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:30 pm to
A 155 is usually the median at LSU. There's no way in hell a white person gets into a top 10 school with a 155.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:30 pm to
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You don't need a mentor to tell you that schools with horrible employment rates and low bar passage numbers are bad. That's called common sense and responsibility.


Everyone would be rich if that was the case.

I think you're undershooting how much a mentor helps. I mentor underprivileged youth; you'd be shocked how much they dont know or how much they haven't been exposed too. Common sense just isn't gonna "click" for some people.

Some people need to be shown how.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:31 pm to
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I think you're underestimating how much having an affluent parent or mentor is.


Why do they have to be affluent?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:33 pm to
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Common sense just isn't gonna "click" for some people.



Maybe fatherhood should be more important to those folks
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:33 pm to
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A 155 is usually the median at LSU. There's no way in hell a white person gets into a top 10 school with a 155.


He did it. Had a MPA from a great southern state school as well and worked for a foreign govt for 2 years post grade. Exceptional candidate that is more than his test schools. Took the LSAT 3 or 4 times and couldn't crack 160.

Does it matter now that he's passed his state bar exam on the first try and practices at one of the best firms?

Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:33 pm to
Making up stories to help your case is bad form
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:33 pm to
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I think you're undershooting how much a mentor helps. I mentor underprivileged youth; you'd be shocked how much they dont know or how much they haven't been exposed too. Common sense just isn't gonna "click" for some people.


So you mean to tell me a person with a college degree doesn't have the mental capacity to research a school they're applying to?
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:33 pm to
my oldest cousin (black) is smarter than everyone n this fricking threat combined. she's a lawyer and is the president of the black women's bar association of southern California


really am getting sick and tired of these snide arse racial undertone jokes you frickers will sit there and cheer on your all black lsu team on saturday then talk shite about how stupid they are and how they can't learn shite on sunday
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:35 pm to
So, you're the black goldennugget?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:35 pm to
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Why do they have to be affluent?


Because studies show that you're chances of being [insert professional career] are significantly higher if you have a parent or mentor that is one. Thats facts.

So yeah it helps to have an affluent parent. They have the resources and knowledge to guide you in the right direction. I see it every day with the kids i mentor. Their margins for error are smaller and the barriers for entry they will have to hurdle will be exponentially higher than affluent kids. and its not because of a lack of
"knowledge."

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:35 pm to
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really am getting sick and tired of these snide arse racial undertone jokes you frickers will sit there and cheer on your all black lsu team on saturday then talk shite about how stupid they are and how they can't learn shite on sunday


The OP set the tone with a really low expectation for black folk. He acts like they're incapable of making good choices.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:37 pm to
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really am getting sick and tired of these snide arse racial undertone jokes you frickers will sit there and cheer on your all black lsu team on saturday then talk shite about how stupid they are and how they can't learn shite on sunday


You mean the snide remarks that strong safety made about how black people aren't able to tell when they're being swindled?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:38 pm to
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So you mean to tell me a person with a college degree doesn't have the mental capacity to research a school they're applying to?


No im not saying that; what I am saying and the article is saying is that they may not know how to play the game within the game to increase their odds. They may not have the resources to take LSAT prep courses that little johnny who's is a second generation lawyer has. They have to work and go to school at the same time that takes time away from studying, which could affect their scores.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:39 pm to
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Because studies show that you're chances of being [insert professional career] are significantly higher if you have a parent or mentor that is one. Thats facts.

So yeah it helps to have an affluent parent. They have the resources and knowledge to guide you in the right direction


The overwhelming majority of people who do well for themselves grew up without affluent mentors.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:39 pm to
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The OP set the tone with a really low expectation for black folk. He acts like they're incapable of making good choices.


I never said that. I said black students may not know how to play the game because they are not aware of it, not because they lack the knowledge or aptitude.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:39 pm to
I got a minority scholarship so I'm koo
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