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re: How to make Punks slow down when driving through your neighborhood.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:47 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:47 pm to Darth_Vader
I'm not trying to sound like a billy-badass. I just think people let their kids do things that I would consider dangerous and then they think that others should be responsible for it. I would die if I hurt a kid, but at the same time, that doesn't make me automatically at fault. Kids often do stupid things that can create dangerous situations. That's why I don't think they should be in the street.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:49 pm to KG6
Look, you and I are in agreement about kids staying out of the street when cars are coming. I also agree with you example about sidewalk chalk at the end of the driveway. That shite makes me nervous to. My kids have heard it ad nauseum.
You were almost right. If you have no reason to believe a kid is present and you are following the laws, and the rug rat pops out from nowhere in front of you, you have no liability, most likely. But if you know kids are likely to be around playing, you may have a legal obligation to drive below the speed limit to avoid being negligent. You don't even need to ask a lawyer. Just Google child dart-out liability.
This is also not true, whether you are talking about kids, adults or other motorists. You can be negligent while following all laws, depending on the circumstances.
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I have no legal obligation to assume anything about anyone.
You were almost right. If you have no reason to believe a kid is present and you are following the laws, and the rug rat pops out from nowhere in front of you, you have no liability, most likely. But if you know kids are likely to be around playing, you may have a legal obligation to drive below the speed limit to avoid being negligent. You don't even need to ask a lawyer. Just Google child dart-out liability.
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If there is an accident, but I was following all laws, I am not in any way at fault.
This is also not true, whether you are talking about kids, adults or other motorists. You can be negligent while following all laws, depending on the circumstances.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:49 pm to TexasTiger01
I can't really help you here since my parents taught me not to play in the fricking street.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:50 pm to KG6
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I'm not trying to sound like a billy-badass.
You're coming across that way though.
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I just think people let their kids do things that I would consider dangerous and then they think that others should be responsible for it. I would die if I hurt a kid, but at the same time, that doesn't make me automatically at fault. Kids often do stupid things that can create dangerous situations. That's why I don't think they should be in the street.
Agree but as the adult in the vehicle (or on the bike in my case usually )you've got to be vigilant and watch out for children, especially when you're going through residential areas. There is a valid reason these signs are everywhere.....
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:51 pm to KG6
Getting off topic, if KG6 is doing the speed limit, he's right. That's the whole premise of the thread. He's worried about kids who normally play in the street jumping out on him. I worry about that shite too, which consequently, is why I drive the speed limit in res. Areas.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:53 pm to TexasTiger01
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You keep saying this. Where did you ride your bike as a kid??? Only in your yard??
Yes
, But I grew up on a highway with no shoulders. We had several acres for me to play on. If you played on our street, you had a deathwish. I know my case isn't normal. And I'm not saying at all kids shouldn't be allowed to roam and play. But I think parents (at least in several neighborhoods around me) let their kids go at too young of an age and do not teach them to act properly in that environment.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:57 pm to KG6
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bullshite. If I'm driving legally and a kid pops out from behind a parked car and I hit him bacause there is no way I could avoid it, I am at no fault. I have no legal obligation to assume anything about anyone. I follow laws, I just have to assume everyone else does. If there is an accident, but I was following all laws, I am not in any way at fault.
It's probably a good thing you have insurance b/c there's a good chance an insurance company would want to settle said case rather than taking a chance of the case going to trial and have a bunch of evidence put on about who was at fault when a kid is dead. Yeah, the parents may be at fault. Yeah, the kid may be at fault. But I'd bet in most scenarios a decent attorney could prove some fault on your part if a case were to go to trial.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:58 pm to Darth_Vader
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You're coming across that way though.
I'm just playing the devil's advocate. I stated early on that I drive very carefully becasue of this. As the adult, I know that I have to be more careful so that taccidents don't happen.
But as a parent, I will also be dilligent in making sure my kids don't play in the street, because I don't think its 100% fair to put the blame and guilt on an unsuspecting, law abiding citizen when my kid makes a mistake. I'm not saying any poster's kids are a problem, and I'm not even saying most kids are a problem, but there are a lot of kids that should not be on the streets. They are not mature enough for that resposiblity.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:59 pm to KG6
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But I grew up on a highway with no shoulders. We had several acres for me to play on. If you played on our street, you had a deathwish.
That's how I grew up, outside of any town on a two lane state highway out in the country. Worse yet, where I lived at that time was a main route for coal trucks like this....
who came by usually at well over 70 mph despite the speed limit being 55 mph.
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I know my case isn't normal. And I'm not saying at all kids shouldn't be allowed to roam and play. But I think parents (at least in several neighborhoods around me) let their kids go at too young of an age and do not teach them to act properly in that environment.
If they are responsible parents they both teach their kids and supervise their kids. Like i said, I grew up out on a open highway and now live literally in a cul-de-sac with little traffic. Even there I still watch my 5 yr old and if she's in the cul-de-sac, I'm there by her side. But above and beyond that, when I'm coming in or out of our subdivision, be I on my motorcycle or in my car, I'm going slow and making sure to watch for the possibly dozens of kids that could be outside. It's called being a responsible adult and a good neighbor to my fellow parents.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:05 pm to Darth_Vader
Wow, how did we turn this into a reasonable discussion? The OT is going to hell in a hand basket.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
Roger, love that avatar man.
Roger, consider this. My sister and I were playing outside, I was three, she was four. We grew up alongside a HWY in a rural area, speed limit was 55, and you rarely saw people driving that slow. She had a fancy new inchworm scooter that you'd sit on and kickwith your feet. We were playing with it on the front porch with my mom, when the phone rang. Mome went in to get it, and I, being 3 wanted to ride it, but she would not let me, so I opted to get her introuble so I could then play with it. I told her something about wanting to go to our grandmaw's house, and told her since she had a car now, she should go. So much to my surprise, she tried, she went out to the driveway, unlatched the gate, and started riding down the highway. I ran to the door and told on her, and I remember my mom giving her a good asswhooping in the yard. But we were good kids, her especially, shite just happens sometimes.
Kids want to do what they know they shouldn't, and that's why as a driver, its important to do what you can. Sure, it might be La'Quandrarious's kid you hit, who is a habitual line stepper, but it might be a kid that's broken free from the tyranny of a watchful parent for the first time, and hasn't even cut their teeth yet on the delicious freedom they've discovered.
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I can't really help you here since my parents taught me not to play in the fricking street.
Roger, consider this. My sister and I were playing outside, I was three, she was four. We grew up alongside a HWY in a rural area, speed limit was 55, and you rarely saw people driving that slow. She had a fancy new inchworm scooter that you'd sit on and kickwith your feet. We were playing with it on the front porch with my mom, when the phone rang. Mome went in to get it, and I, being 3 wanted to ride it, but she would not let me, so I opted to get her introuble so I could then play with it. I told her something about wanting to go to our grandmaw's house, and told her since she had a car now, she should go. So much to my surprise, she tried, she went out to the driveway, unlatched the gate, and started riding down the highway. I ran to the door and told on her, and I remember my mom giving her a good asswhooping in the yard. But we were good kids, her especially, shite just happens sometimes.
Kids want to do what they know they shouldn't, and that's why as a driver, its important to do what you can. Sure, it might be La'Quandrarious's kid you hit, who is a habitual line stepper, but it might be a kid that's broken free from the tyranny of a watchful parent for the first time, and hasn't even cut their teeth yet on the delicious freedom they've discovered.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:13 pm to constant cough
unless you have a fully built offroad race truck you are not driving right over these. They are about 10 feet long and the width of the street.
do you even own a house?
do you even own a house?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:13 pm to KG6
quote:those kids either have shite parents that don't pay attention to them or they have shite head parents that think just because they have a kid everyone should bow to their every need.
I'm not saying your kid has to be in a pen in the back yard, but there's no need to be playing two feet from the street. I've seen kids kicking footballs along the street and every other one causes a car to hit its brakes so the kid run to can get the ball, I've seen little girls coloring with sidewalk chalk at the very end of the driveway when they could easily be further away from the road. In my opinion, they are making the road a dangerous situation for themselves more often than cars are.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:26 pm to TexasTiger01
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:27 pm to TexasTiger39
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My son seen him coming
Use better grammar
His son seen't him coming.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:29 pm to TexasTiger01
We had that problem in our neighborhood with some teenagers. Somebody called the cops and for the next week or so, a patrol car sat in our neighborhood periodically and one of the jackass kids wound up getting a nice fat ticket.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:30 pm to Pavoloco83
yea but whoever called the cops also put every dog in the neighborhood in danger.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:34 pm to TexasTiger01
I live on a parish road that people use as a cut through road. its 35mph but people routinely do 50. pretty sure I'm gonna end up pulling some strings and getting it reduced to 25 and add a couple of stop signs. I'm slowly becoming the cranky old man i always hated when i was young
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:37 pm to SG_Geaux
About ten years ago. Same guy flew down my street about twice the speed limit..
Waved and told him to slow down once he gave me a salute..backed up told me to F off....
He was a 35 year old punk
About 20 minutes lter he rolled by same way...almost hit a kid...
Let a fast ball fly into the side of his truck... He drove off...
The nex day..he whizzes by even faster.....this time I got his windshield...
He stopped driving like that...
Waved and told him to slow down once he gave me a salute..backed up told me to F off....
He was a 35 year old punk
About 20 minutes lter he rolled by same way...almost hit a kid...
Let a fast ball fly into the side of his truck... He drove off...
The nex day..he whizzes by even faster.....this time I got his windshield...
He stopped driving like that...
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:39 pm to Darth_Vader
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If they are responsible parents they both teach their kids and supervise their kids
I guess that overall, this is the ultimate reasoning for my rambling. I don't think drivers should just not care about the kids. I am simply saying that we have waaaaaaay too many irresponsible parents, putting kids out on the streets because they think that living in a neighborhood is just one big park for their kids to play. I think that goes hand in hand with the problem of speeding brought up by the OP.
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