re: How open are you to driverless vehicles on the roads?

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Right. And I'm saying merging wouldn't be an issue because cars will be designed to let other cars merge.

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There would have to be plenty of debugging in the system that sets it up. Its going to take a long long time simply based on the fact that if the system glitches, it could kill people, and the computer system could end up killing someone in a situation that the human could have easily avoided.

We need then asap.

Don't under estimate the freedom of driving your own car when you want and where you want.

honestly how long would it take to really roll out the infrastructure for the driverless cars? I mean like really say you want to go from los angeles california to bumblefrick,louisiana to your house. That car has to be able to stop/start at all red lights and stop signs along the way. I imagine that the time/cost to build out a true nationwide network of driverless cars would be a long long time costing some major $$$$.

Then you're gonna have the issue of who is liable when accidents occur, and believe me they will. You're going to have plenty of people who don't adopt these driverless cars and they're still gonna be drinking and driving and causing accidents. They're still gonna be texting and driving and you will be in your driverless pod while these idiots go wild.

I think we may have a fully driverless car in the next decade, but the logistics of stopping/starting at all red lights,stop signs,yield signs, railroad tracks, etc Im sure can be solved but I don't see it happening anytime soon. I really think it'll be ho-hum and we're still driving cars in 20 years.

Have you ever seen the movie "demolition man" with stallone and snipes? It was shot in like 1992 and the year is 2030 i think or 2020 and the world is on flying cars and other futuristic stuff lol we're almost at that date today and its much of the same as we had in 1992.

I think driverless cars are awesome, I just dont really see how its going to be mainstream when the bulk of people in this country are barely getting by and paying for some high tech machine is not really feasible. Maybe if costs go down drastically and a self driving car is sub $20k then we can seriously discuss it being mainstream.

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honestly how long would it take to really roll out the infrastructure for the driverless cars? I mean like really say you want to go from los angeles california to bumblefrick,louisiana to your house. That car has to be able to stop/start at all red lights and stop signs along the way. I imagine that the time/cost to build out a true nationwide network of driverless cars would be a long long time costing some major $$$$.

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Infrastructure already exists. Cars are all GPS based. You don't need any more infrastructure. I've seen these cars go up and down the freeway, merge, exit, stop at stop signs, yield to other cars and avoid idiots who don't play by the rules. I'm sure they'll test more but they're farther along than people think.

another big thing is when it comes to the concept of driverless cars just ending all insanity. Think about how much money is generated off traffic tickets and what those tickets pay for. There would be a giant shortfall if speeding tickets died along with parking violations and whatnot that are basically human errors.

Do you think governments want this? Will they approve of this? Really insurance wise, what would you be insuring? The abilities of your computer??? It's all cool, and im really onboard I just think as someone in his mid 30s that I probably wont see much of anything in my lifetime. I just don't know how you can allow 4000 lb machines to roll around at 70 miles per hour and think society is gonna be fine without a driver controlling it. What happens when this machine kills a kid crossing the street? Whose at fault? Whether you want to believe it or not, a human driver still makes countless decisions everytime he gets behind a wheel.

one of the bigwigs at audi recently said we're still 20 to 30 years away fwiw

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Infrastructure already exists. Cars are all GPS based. You don't need any more infrastructure

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But how do they stay in their lanes? I've read that Teslas are utilizing technology to read the traffic striping. There would need to be extensive striping operations and upgrades done on a majority of roadways throughout the country. Many local roads don't even have striping. What happens during rain? snow?


I do believe in the technology, but it will be something that thrives in busy, urban areas only. It is just so far away from being a feasible technology in rural America, IMO. There isn't even an electric vehicle capable of replacing the modern pickup truck yet.. not even a concept yet as far as I know. Yet in 10 years there is going to be a driverless electric truck that can tow my boat around and back it down the boat launch? That's why I believe the freedom to drive your own vehicle is not something we will see go away in our lives.

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The technology is further along than many people think. Barrier to adoption is regulations and consumer trust and by the looks of this thread, the latter may be lesser of the two hassles.

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Their biggest barriers are going to blue collar workers like truck drivers

1.3 million miles before the first accident, folks.

Computers landed the space shuttle since the 80s. They can land a fighter jet on an aircraft carrier.

It's not just a gps based system. You have sensors all over the car. Theoretically speaking, the car ought to be able to react to a hazard faster than you can.

What will be interesting to see is the reaction from law enforcement and the insurance industry. Cops should love this because now they don't have to devote a sizable portion of manpower to revenue collection. What should happen is depts will downsize to reflect the budget deficiencies since traffic fines should go to zero. The DWI industry is going to disappear. The insurance racket is going to take a huge hit. Hell, if you're still driving a self driving car you're probably going to pay out the arse for insurance.

I can't wait for this. I commute from Hammond to BR everyday.

again, I get the car doesnt cause accidents, but how would you feel riding in your self driving car that obeys they law at 3 am and some drunk jerkoff in an f250 barrels through a red light, your self driving car isnt gonna stop that. Your self driving car isnt gonna stop soccer moms from texting and ramming you with their range rover. So its a moot point until every car is a self driving car you're still gonna have wrecks. How long will it be till every car is self driving and there are no people making human mistakes on the road is the real question and I really don't think its anywhere in our lifetimes.