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How much would we save if "accidents" happened to heinous killers?

Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:57 pm
I am talking about pedophiles, serial,rapists murderers. People with life without parole 400 years sentences. Scum of the earth. Garbage that doesn't deserve to soak up our tax dollars watching cable television and living life.

What if we were to contract the services of some other violent individual with few qualms and promised him some sort of reward for taking care of a "problem" for us.

No inordinate amount of money spent on trying to execute them. No waiting periods. Just a Dose of actual justice served piping hot.



Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:03 pm to
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rapists


this?
Posted by beantown
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:03 pm to
I wonder this all the time. Not necessarily some cynical means, but what would happen if whenever you effed up, you got your head chopped off or a hand or something? Would it really not deter crime anymore? I mean, aren't these people aware of their decisions when they commit these extreme crimes? Why should we show them mercy?

But of course I don't know all the perspectives, I'm not trying to be ignorant, just honestly curious at the effect this would have.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:06 pm to
We would save a lot. Not necessarily the most humanitarian way of handling things, but yeah.
Posted by beantown
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:07 pm to
I would like to know the negatives to doing this. What is the other sides argument? Is it honestly just being humane?
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:09 pm to
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mean, aren't these people aware of their decisions when they commit these extreme crimes? Why should we show them mercy?


Because the circumstances and variables that influence decision-making are essentially incalculable and also include dysfunctional brain activity that, when reduced, is no more the fault of the host than the color of the sky.
Posted by beantown
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:10 pm to
Right I remember now reading about this in college. Still, are these people worth keeping?

What I mean is that if they fail to function as basic humans, should they receive basic human rights.
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:17 pm to
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dysfunctional brain activity that, when reduced, is no more the fault of the host than the color of the sky.

Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:18 pm to
Might cost a lot to have them killed
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:20 pm to
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Right I remember now reading about this in college. Still, are these people worth keeping?

What I mean is that if they fail to function as basic humans, should they receive basic human rights.



It's an interesting philosophical question, for sure. Beyond that, I doubt society is ready to address it (even if we were, there is so much money to be made in the prison industry).
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:21 pm to
Tis true, Festus. We've gone down this route before.
Posted by ClientNumber9
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:21 pm to
A better solution would be to grant defendants a trial and one appeal if they lose. If they lost, the death penalty must be served within 3 months from the rejection of the appeal.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:22 pm to
I know, it's why I

It sounds like these heinous killers are actually.....victims?
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:24 pm to
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It sounds like these heinous killers are actually.....victims?



A psychopath is as responsible for the genetic makeup of their brain as you are for your neurotypical brain. So, yes, in a sense.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:27 pm to
Do you think the vast majority of these so called psychopath killers understand right from wrong? Or do you think that in actuality, the number of heinous killers that are truly mentally ill is miniscule compared to those that are actually chosen evil killers?
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:32 pm to
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Do you think the vast majority of these so called psychopath killers understand right from wrong? Or do you think that in actuality, the number of heinous killers that are truly mentally ill is miniscule compared to those that are actually chosen evil killers?



I have a few thoughts:
(1) There are neurobiological markers of psychopathy that would distinguish as psychopath from a neurotypical individual.
(2) Anyone that kills someone without reason can almost instantly be assumed to have a "mental illness".
(3) The decisions one makes are, when reduced, a product of activity below the level of conscious awareness.

Also, I don't believe in "evil".
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:33 pm to
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these heinous killer's are actually ..... victims


Entitlement killers?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:40 pm to
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(2) Anyone that kills someone without reason can almost instantly be assumed to have a "mental illness".

Wow.

FREE DERRICK TODD LEE!!!
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:41 pm to
Let me know where you got the idea that I support freeing anyone.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:42 pm to
Well, I meant free him from prison..and enroll him in counseling classes....
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