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re: How much longer can local hospitals go before major layoffs take place?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:51 am to lsunurse
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:51 am to lsunurse
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I’m just so thankful I didn’t get furloughed cause apparently that was an option they were looking at.
You’re essentially getting furloughed. Just deferred.
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:51 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Maybe you can show me the numbers he is throwing out, since he probably won't, and you agree with him.
Well, surely you can agree that NYC is by far the worst area? According to their own data, hospitals in NYC are currently still below capacity for both total beds and ICU beds. Are they busy, of course. But, still below stated capacity. Now, imagine how things are in the rest of the country...
Link to NYC medical stats
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:52 am to lsunurse
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I just found out I have to take a couple weeks of PTO (I’m salaried so a fixed earner). My entire department will be doing this. If you don’t have enough PTO it will be leave without pay.
Doing the same here, except they are letting everyone go into negative PTO so no one has to take unpaid leave. Through April and May, everyone salaried (and not super-essential) is having to take one day per week.
I think it's going to put me slightly in the negative, but it's better than no job or unpaid leave.
Now we just need to get back to business as usual during May so this won't have to continue.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:53 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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You have a link showing those numbers you just threw out? Or did you just pull them out of your arse?
There are 5,724 hospitals in the US. The ones currently overwhelmed with covid cases exist in only a very few select places. You tell me which hospitals in Louisiana you think currently have more coronavirus patients than their new coronavirus floors have capacity for?
The truth is you extrapolated some shite that doesn't exist in 99% of the country's hospitals.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:55 am to MrLSU
But JBE says that he needs beds, ventilators because our system is going to get overloaded.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:56 am to Jack_Handy
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Well, surely you can agree that NYC is by far the worst area? According to their own date, hospitals in NYC are currently still below capacity for both total beds and ICU beds. Are they busy, of course. But, still below stated capacity. Now, imagine how things are in the rest of the country...
Link to NYC medical stats
Almost nowhere is. He made up a scenario, and now he's smashing the downvote button because it was a lie.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:57 am to YouAre8Up
Scout motto say be prepared. Do you have a problem with the scout motto?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:01 pm to Jack_Handy
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Well, surely you can agree that NYC is by far the worst area? According to their own data, hospitals in NYC are currently still below capacity for both total beds and ICU beds
So you linked me to something that says exactly what I was saying to prove me wrong? I explained that hospitals were way under capacity. Your link also shows ICU at about max capacity, which is also what I was saying. Where did you prove me wrong? You just solidified my point.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:01 pm to MrLSU
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The hospitals are complete ghost towns right now and I can’t imagine they aren’t hemorrhaging cash with no customers. I keep seeing hospitals all over the country laying off hundreds but we haven’t seen that in Louisiana yet. I have to imagine those layoffs are coming soon.
We’re at less than 33 percent capacity here in palm beach county, FL and our hospital is consistently ranked the number 1 hospital in the vast majority of local surveys. We’re at less than 35 TOTAL covid cases including the rule outs with less than 10 positives.
I’m down to 25 hours a week in physical therapy and that’s with going into some of the covid rooms that really need to get stronger. ALL of our per diem and part time staff have been completely cut to zero. Fortunately some orthos are starting to do more “emergency” surgeries on total knee and total hip patients (they’re not really emergency surgeries) to keep a few patients rolling through or we’d be sunk even more.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:02 pm to Evolved Simian
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Almost nowhere is. He made up a scenario, and now he's smashing the downvote button because it was a lie.
I made up the scenario? I'm not the one who threw out some numbers, with nothing backing it. Then posted a link which just showed exactly what I said.
Also didn't downvote shite. I have no need to hide behind a button.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:03 pm to yatesdog38
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If hospitals were doing their job instead of laundering money for college boosters they would have their finances figured out.
Upvote forthwith.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:03 pm to Revelator
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I’ve seen nurses on Facebook crying and overwhelmed by Covid patients and saw pictures of them sleeping on floors from exhaustion. Surely the things I saw on Facebook must be true?
It’s almost like we live in a big enough country to have both completely empty hospitals and hospitals where nurses are overrun and exhausted?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:07 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Where did you prove me wrong?
You said earlier:
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All of this equals less patients overall, and empty hospitals. - Large number of CV patients in conditions that require more beds and equipment than ICUs have. This equals an overwhelmed section, with not enough equipment to handle it.
I’m giving you a link stating that even in the absolute worst area, the hospitals still have ICU capacity. Not “patients in conditions that require more beds and equipment than ICUs have”.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:07 pm to arkyhawk
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It’s almost like we live in a big enough country to have both completely empty hospitals and hospitals where nurses are overrun and exhausted?
Yes, but the hospital in Podunk, Alabama is empty. The world outside of that is beyond their capability of understanding.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:08 pm to Jack_Handy
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I’m giving you a link stating that even in the absolute worst area, the hospitals still have ICU capacity. Not “patients in conditions that require more beds and equipment than ICUs have”.
So, they were never at this point?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:12 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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So, they were never at this point?
In the link, it shows on a graph the available hospital bed and ICU capacity always exceeded the demand. As demand increased, capacity increased. According to their own data, no - they were never at this point.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:14 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I do agree with you that most hospitals have certain areas (Covid care areas) that are short on willing staff while most other areas of the hospital are well below normal volume. Maybe we are not so different in our opinions...
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:15 pm to L1C4
So our medical capacity is waning because of the actions taken to preserve medical capacity. Weren’t we told this was to make sure people without CV risk factors could still receive medical treatment? This is one massive shite show. Open this bitch back up.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:18 pm to Jack_Handy
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I do agree with you that most hospitals have certain areas (Covid care areas) that are short on willing staff while most other areas of the hospital are well below normal volume. Maybe we are not so different in our opinions...
That was my whole point. People saying, "Oh my god, they told us hospitals were overwhelmed but they are actually empty. The lies!! " are making a completlely ignorant statement. Hospitals can be empty, for the reasons I listed, but still be overwhelmed. I would say this was the case in plenty enough hospitals for it to be reported.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:20 pm to cable
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Weren’t we told this was to make sure people without CV risk factors could still receive medical treatment?
I can remember this being stated repeatedly.
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