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re: How much longer can local hospitals go before major layoffs take place?

Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58407 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:23 am to
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How much longer can local hospitals go before major layoffs take place?



I’ve seen nurses on Facebook crying and overwhelmed by Covid patients and saw pictures of them sleeping on floors from exhaustion. Surely the things I saw on Facebook must be true?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20770 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:24 am to
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How come we can't use those laid-off local hospital workers to help conduct universal testing on all citizens? Oh wait a minute. We still don't have enough testing kits or PPE for healthcare personnel. Never mind.


We have a few million unused test kits. We're manufacturing 1-2 million per week, which is capacity. Where do you suppose the other 340 million test kits for your low IQ universal testing policy would come from?

Honestly, that's probably the stupidest idea I've heard in all of this.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8343 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:27 am to
Surgeons fricked themselves on this deal

Remember, hospitals have two basic revenue streams:

1. a several thousand dollar a night hotel
2. surgery


Surgeries drive most of the demand for the rooms


they didn't want to perform elective surgeries at the beginning of this thing due to high risk of exposure

surgeries cancelled, causing a ripple effect in the entire hospital. Now they don't have patients to see in their clinic, which they rent from the hospital. So guess who needs a bailout? fricking doctors.

hospitals dont have the hotel revenue, etc. so they furlow nurses/techs/other staff

This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:29 am
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:29 am to
My aunt is a nurse in Evangeline Parish with decades of experience and she has been furloughed
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:30 am to
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Whatever do you mean? This thing was suppose to have hospitals at capacity. People overrunning the hospitals


How can people still not comprehend that hospitals can be both overwhelmed with CV patients, yet still very empty compared to normal? It's not a very hard concept to grasp.

- no elective surgeries.
- people not going to hospitals, when they normally would out of fear
- postponment of other surgeries that aren't needed immediately.
- no visitors

All of this equals less patients overall, and empty hospitals.

- Large number of CV patients in conditions that require more beds and equipment than ICUs have.

This equals an overwhelmed section, with not enough equipment to handle it.


A hospital can be both empty, compared to normal, and overwhelmed at the same time.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20770 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:32 am to
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All the local testing places had to cut back hours because not enough people were coming to get tested
It’s pointless to get tested if you don’t have symptoms
The antibody test is the one needed to test people not sick



This. It's amazing that people as unintelligent and uninformed as Bench McElroy feel compelled to spout stupid shite on the internet, but, honestly, it is the thing they do best.

This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:39 am
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:33 am to
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This. It's amazing that people as unintelligent and uninformed feel compelled to spout stupid shite on the internet, but, honestly, it is the thing they do best


They smash the downvote button, because it allows them to show you how stupid they are, without actually outing themselves by opening their mouths.
Posted by Jack_Handy
Sweet Home
Member since Apr 2020
104 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:33 am to
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Surgeons fricked themselves on this deal


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they didn't want to perform elective surgeries at the beginning of this thing due to high risk of exposure


You have no idea what you are talking about. Surgeons didn’t just decide to stop doing cases because they were scared - most were not. They were ordered by the government (state and local) as well as Medicare/CMS to stop all non-emergent surgeries.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17542 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:36 am to
It is already happening in the medical community. I am sans a job as of Monday.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20770 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:37 am to
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- Large number of CV patients in conditions that require more beds and equipment than ICUs have.


Sure. In maybe 25-30 hospitals in the country. The rest are nowhere near capacity in their brand new dedicated COVID floors and ICUs. Guess what's going on in those 5,694 hospitals?

Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15925 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:38 am to
MUSC in Charleston laid off 900 nurses, cut remaining salaries by 20%, and eliminated all overtime and bonuses. My friend is anesthesiologist there and said it will end up costing him roughly $100,000 this year.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
46986 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:39 am to
Friend works in a hospital lab
Her hours were cut last week
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20770 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:39 am to
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They smash the downvote button, because it allows them to show you how stupid they are, without actually outing themselves by opening their mouths.




I wish, but Bench McElroy was more than clear in expressing his dumb ideas.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:39 am to
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Sure. In maybe 25-30 hospitals in the country. The rest are nowhere near capacity in their brand new dedicated COVID floors and ICUs. Guess what's going on in those 5,694 hospitals?


You have a link showing those numbers you just threw out? Or did you just pull them out of your arse?
Posted by Jack_Handy
Sweet Home
Member since Apr 2020
104 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:40 am to
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Guess what's going on in those 5,694 hospitals?


Agree! Mostly nothing. The hospitals are losing significant income (many smaller hospitals may not survive) and staff is being laid off or furloughed. And if you think the stimulus funds will make up for this lost revenue, you’re wrong.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:40 am to
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I wish, but Bench McElroy was more than clear in expressing his dumb ideas


Oh yeah. A few of them are dumb enough to not even realize/care how dumb they actually are.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:42 am to
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Agree! Mostly nothing


Maybe you can show me the numbers he is throwing out, since he probably won't, and you agree with him.

It's no coincidence that it's Bama fans creating numbers out of thin air. You've seemed to do it plenty with national titles as well.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:43 am to
If hospitals were doing their job instead of laundering money for college boosters they would have their finances figured out.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129071 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:44 am to
I just found out I have to take a couple weeks of PTO (I’m salaried so a fixed earner). My entire department will be doing this. If you don’t have enough PTO it will be leave without pay.

I’ll be taking a week off every 3rd week. Supposed to only be until June 1 but who knows.

I’m just so thankful I didn’t get furloughed cause apparently that was an option they were looking at.

Was told we are already down 40% in revenue
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:50 am to
Sounds like a situation of overpaid doctors or other waste.

I've always had my suspicions about hospital bond credit rating The only ones worth buying are if they are insured or have an enormous endowment. The BBB rated bonds never had the same cash flow as a corporation with the same rating.
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