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re: How many of you believe Big Foot really exists?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:48 pm to Hogwarts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:48 pm to Hogwarts
I think I read that for a species to sustain itself without inbreeding causing genetic problems, there needs to be a population of 10,000 specimens. So, 10,000 large primates would have to go undetected for several centuries for them to be real.
Now, the bigger problem is that there's no fossil record... ostensibly, they would have been in North America for 1000's of years, which means that millions of them would have had to have lived here during that time... not a single skeleton or bone has ever been recovered.
Sorry, Bigfoot ain't real.
Now, the bigger problem is that there's no fossil record... ostensibly, they would have been in North America for 1000's of years, which means that millions of them would have had to have lived here during that time... not a single skeleton or bone has ever been recovered.
Sorry, Bigfoot ain't real.
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:50 pm to dpd901
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I think I read that for a species to sustain itself without inbreeding causing genetic problems, there needs to be a population of 10,000 specimens. So, 10,000 large primates would have to go undetected for several centuries for them to be real.
Now, the bigger problem is that there's no fossil record... ostensibly, they would have been in North America for 1000's of years, which means that millions of them would have had to have lived here during that time... not a single skeleton or bone has ever been recovered.
10,000? Im sure there's disputing theories on that.
Also, we are still finding dinosaur fossils, there's no reason to think there other significant archaeological finds that haven't been discovered. We haven't searched every square inch of the earth looking for fossils, not even close. It takes a great deal of effort to find fossils and extract them.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:53 pm to tiggerthetooth
I don't think they exist, but I can't fully discount the possibility. We know
Similar species once existed where Bigfoots have allegedly been spotted. We know that those areas are fairly remote and offer enough food for to support an active population, and it's not like we haven't recently discovered many species, like the celocanth, that were thought to have been long ago extinct. Heck, great apes were thought to be nothing but a local legend prior to their discovery in the 1920s.
I don't believe in Bigfoot, because no one has produced credible material DNA evidence or a corpse. However, I see it as possible for the reasons stated above.
Similar species once existed where Bigfoots have allegedly been spotted. We know that those areas are fairly remote and offer enough food for to support an active population, and it's not like we haven't recently discovered many species, like the celocanth, that were thought to have been long ago extinct. Heck, great apes were thought to be nothing but a local legend prior to their discovery in the 1920s.
I don't believe in Bigfoot, because no one has produced credible material DNA evidence or a corpse. However, I see it as possible for the reasons stated above.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:55 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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There's bears in Arizona?
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This is the first recorded predation by a jaguar on a black bear, and as Neils points out, it occurred where the northern limit of the jaguar’s range reached the southern limit of the black bear’s range.
Smithsonian article
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:59 pm to tiggerthetooth
Big Foot was fun in the 60's and 70's, but with the technology that we have today there is zero chance that he exists.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:08 pm to Twenty 49
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Yet not one damned game cam or security system has a glimpse of a bigfoot
So tired of seeing this moronic debunked argument. We have literally HUNDREDS of trail cam pictures of sasquatch. Yet every time a new one surfaces people like you write it off as a fake. You can't demand evidence if you're going to dismiss it no matter what
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:11 pm to Grim
quote:why hasn't a body or scat or anything showed up around the areas of these trail cameras?
We have literally HUNDREDS of trail cam pictures of sasquatch.
Oh and I'm guessing there just happens to be Big Foots all over North America and every other continent too right?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:12 pm to tiggerthetooth
Not a chance. Zero.
With how widespread trail cameras are now with hunters, he'd have been busted long ago.
With how widespread trail cameras are now with hunters, he'd have been busted long ago.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:15 pm to tiggerthetooth
[quote]Also, we are still finding dinosaur fossils, there's no reason to think there other significant archaeological finds that haven't been discovered. [/quote
The difference between dinosaurs and Big Foot is that we have found fossils... thousands and thousands of them. I can google pictures of them and go touch them in museums. And dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Big Foot still allegedly exists, and yet, not a hair. Not a tooth, not a finger, not a pile of scat. Much less a fossil.
There is zero concrete evidence that a large primate species besides humans have EVER lived in North America.
The difference between dinosaurs and Big Foot is that we have found fossils... thousands and thousands of them. I can google pictures of them and go touch them in museums. And dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Big Foot still allegedly exists, and yet, not a hair. Not a tooth, not a finger, not a pile of scat. Much less a fossil.
There is zero concrete evidence that a large primate species besides humans have EVER lived in North America.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here's the really important question: is the plural form of big foot big feet or big foots?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:16 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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With how widespread trail cameras are now with hunters, he'd have been busted long ago.
For frick sake...
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:17 pm to Peter Venkman
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Here's the really important question: is the plural form of big foot big feet or big foots?
Big footses.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:21 pm to tiggerthetooth
Paging crazy San Francisco bay serpent-hunting poster
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:23 pm to dpd901
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The difference between dinosaurs and Big Foot is that we have found fossils... thousands and thousands of them. I can google pictures of them and go touch them in museums. And dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Big Foot still allegedly exists, and yet, not a hair. Not a tooth, not a finger, not a pile of scat. Much less a fossil.
But not ALL of them. Within the last 10 years we've found lots of new fossil evidence that have changed the long held views of dinosaur traits and behaviors.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:24 pm to tiggerthetooth
How big is this foot you speak of?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:24 pm to SuperSaint
my uncle has quite a few on his land, my cousin and I thought about throwing on a ghillie suit and wearing some platforms with big feet cut-outs one night to mess with his mind.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:27 pm to SEClint
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:54 pm to tiggerthetooth
There was a large ape group in Africa that local native people have seen on occasion for decades, they were finally filmed in 2004. 300lb apes, never found any bones or their habitats, fwiw....
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:59 pm to tiggerthetooth
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But not ALL of them. Within the last 10 years we've found lots of new fossil evidence that have changed the long held views of dinosaur traits and behaviors.
Ok, so the way science works is that you propose a hypothesis: A large primate species exists in North America
Then you test it: Is there concrete physical evidence that a large primate species exists in America? Does that evidence stand up to scientific testing and peer review? No and No
Then you draw a conclusion: based on the results of extensive scientific investigation and the complete lack of a single quantifiable shred of physical evidence, not a single fossil in the entire paleontological body scientific, it can stated with almost 100 percent certainty, that a large nonhuman primate species does not now, nor has ever existed on the North American continent. However, if evidence to the contrary is found in the future, and stands up to rigorous scientific scrutiny, this theory would at that point be revised to reflect that evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Now if you just want to believe in Bigfoot, cause it's awesome, then more power to ya!
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