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re: How many of these Army patches do you think you could identify before using Google?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:03 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:03 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Patches O’Houlihan could.
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:05 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
What famous Active Component Army division on that sheet actually started off as an Army Reserve division?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:06 pm to Wolfhound45
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What famous Active Component Army division on that sheet actually started off as an Army Reserve division?
I wanna say either 29th or 45th IDs.
But I could be completely off base here
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:11 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
What famous Active Component Army division on that sheet actually started off as an Army Reserve division?
Off the cuff answer is 7th ID, but probably not the correct one.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:33 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Most people do not realize this but...
1-25 Active Component
26-50 - Army National Guard
51 and above - Army Reserve
General Marshall was supportive of airborne divisions but would not permit a Regular Army division designation to be used for the initial test concept. Hence the 82nd Infantry Division (Army Reserve) and the 101st Infantry Division (Army Reserve) were given the mission to form an initial airborne capability. After it was validated the next three divisions were Regular Army formations (11th, 13th and 17th).
The more you know...
1-25 Active Component
26-50 - Army National Guard
51 and above - Army Reserve
General Marshall was supportive of airborne divisions but would not permit a Regular Army division designation to be used for the initial test concept. Hence the 82nd Infantry Division (Army Reserve) and the 101st Infantry Division (Army Reserve) were given the mission to form an initial airborne capability. After it was validated the next three divisions were Regular Army formations (11th, 13th and 17th).
The more you know...
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:35 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Zero.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:35 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
Most people do not realize this but...
1-25 Active Component
26-50 - Army National Guard
51 and above - Army Reserve
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:36 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
General Marshall was supportive of airborne divisions but would not permit a Regular Army division designation to be used for the initial test concept. Hence the 82nd Infantry Division (Army Reserve) and the 101st Infantry Division (Army Reserve) were given the mission to form an initial airborne capability. After it was validated the next three divisions were Regular Army formations (11th, 13th and 17th).
Didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
I got one for you now, why is there a southern cross on one of those patches?
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:37 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Have you posted this before?
Honest question. It seems like I've seen something similar to this picture here where a poster was wondering about making a quilt or something.
Either way it's fricking awesome that you have all those patches from your grandfather. Mine was a navy guy and I've got a few things from him that are priceless to me.
Honest question. It seems like I've seen something similar to this picture here where a poster was wondering about making a quilt or something.
Either way it's fricking awesome that you have all those patches from your grandfather. Mine was a navy guy and I've got a few things from him that are priceless to me.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I know it is the 23rd Infantry Division (Americal). I do not know a lot about the history of the division though (other than GEN Powell wears the Combat patch - long story about that as well).
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:41 pm to Wolfhound45
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I know it is the 23rd Infantry Division (Americal). I do not know a lot about the history of the division though (other than GEN Powell wears the Combat patch - long story about that as well).
It was the only American division formed outside the continent in WWII.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:42 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I waited for your answer and then looked it up on Wiki 
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:42 pm to IAmNERD
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Have you posted this before?
I may have, can’t remember.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:44 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I’m a level 9 history nerd so most of them. One interesting side note about one of your patches, namely the 45th Infantry Division....
... is that the patch you have is the patch the division used during WWII. Before WWII, they had this patch...
I’m sure you can understand why the change was necessary.
... is that the patch you have is the patch the division used during WWII. Before WWII, they had this patch...
I’m sure you can understand why the change was necessary.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:44 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Only about a dozen there I have never seen. Wore 9 of them and seen the majority of others in 1 way or the other. That is one bitchin blanket. I am going to dig into the ones I've never seen and get an education.
Thanks for posting this. That was a lot of fun to pick through
Thanks for posting this. That was a lot of fun to pick through
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:45 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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It was the only American division formed outside the continent in WWI
Correct sir. It was formed on Caledonia, thus the name “Americal”.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:46 pm to Darth_Vader
Yeah I knew the history behind that one. The reason the swastika was used in the first place was because it’s based in Oklahoma and pulls from the southwest US. Big Indian country.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:47 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
(Full disclosure - I was in the Army for almost 31 years, mostly reserve component, but also hit about 2 dozen bases and overseas stations and actually served with or alongside over a dozen units depicted here. I think I counted 10 patches here that I actually wore.)
There is a relatively consistent (not universal) pattern.
"Most" of the Roman numerals represent corps (a unit composed, most often, by two or more units of division strength or less). An exception here is the triangle of triangles near bottom center which is III Corps.
The triangles with numerals on yellow are Armored Divisons. The exception is the"IV" is the WWII IV Armored Corps (no longer in existence).
The vast majority of the patches here, the circle, polygonal or "badge"/"shield shaped patches (not otherwise an Armored or Corps) represent division, regiment or brigade elements. (ETA: Now that I've read the thread, some are Army insignia, as well.)
From the famous (2nd Infantry and 1st Cav are the larger than the other patches near the center) to the relatively obscure. Obviously there are some I don't recognize here that could just be defunct, foreign military, non-standard or just "cool" patches.
it's a nice collection, but I notice at least 1 omission - no "Bloody Bucket" (28th Division), a unit that dates back to Benjamin Franklin. Currently the Pennsylvania Army National Guard.
The 5th ID (the red diamond) was at Fort Polk for many, many years when it was a FORSCOM post in the pre-BRAC, pre-JRTC era.
There is a relatively consistent (not universal) pattern.
"Most" of the Roman numerals represent corps (a unit composed, most often, by two or more units of division strength or less). An exception here is the triangle of triangles near bottom center which is III Corps.
The triangles with numerals on yellow are Armored Divisons. The exception is the"IV" is the WWII IV Armored Corps (no longer in existence).
The vast majority of the patches here, the circle, polygonal or "badge"/"shield shaped patches (not otherwise an Armored or Corps) represent division, regiment or brigade elements. (ETA: Now that I've read the thread, some are Army insignia, as well.)
From the famous (2nd Infantry and 1st Cav are the larger than the other patches near the center) to the relatively obscure. Obviously there are some I don't recognize here that could just be defunct, foreign military, non-standard or just "cool" patches.
it's a nice collection, but I notice at least 1 omission - no "Bloody Bucket" (28th Division), a unit that dates back to Benjamin Franklin. Currently the Pennsylvania Army National Guard.
The 5th ID (the red diamond) was at Fort Polk for many, many years when it was a FORSCOM post in the pre-BRAC, pre-JRTC era.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:47 pm to northshorebamaman
Which also explains why all parachute regiments start with 50X and the glider regiments are 325th (82nd) and 327th (101st). They are the only two regiments that remained from the original division. Hence the 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment (AIR) today versus the 504th, 505th and 508th Parachute Infantry Regiments (PIR) that were formed when the division was placed on airborne status.
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:49 pm to greenbean
well, there's a Norwegian flag, tab, and lance corporal's stripe...
a lot of ETO divisional patches and what looks like a pre-war Hawaiian Division patch and tab (that was later split up into the 24th and 25th Infantry Divisions)
I, III, III, X, XI, and XIX corps (served with a very old warrant officer when I was a 2LT who wore X corps as a combat patch)
a lot of ETO divisional patches and what looks like a pre-war Hawaiian Division patch and tab (that was later split up into the 24th and 25th Infantry Divisions)
I, III, III, X, XI, and XIX corps (served with a very old warrant officer when I was a 2LT who wore X corps as a combat patch)
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