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re: How many more years of human work is left?

Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by tigerfan84
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:49 pm to
Go to welding school

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Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Consumer spending is 70% of the US economy.

We'll probably end up with some sort at UBI at some point in the future, but it will be essentially the equivalent of welfare, not some middle class income.

It will be interesting. I have one starting college pretty soon and I'm struggling a little with how to guide her.


I hate the idea of UBI on principle. I think there will still be many jobs that can't be replaced by AI, and perhaps competition (and salaries) will rise for these. Here's what Grok said:

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Here are 10 jobs that are unlikely to be fully replaced by AI due to their reliance on uniquely human skills, creativity, emotional intelligence, or complex physical tasks:

Therapist/Counselor: The deep emotional connection, empathy, and nuanced understanding required in therapy are difficult for AI to replicate authentically.

Social Worker: Addressing complex human needs, navigating sensitive social situations, and advocating for individuals require human judgment and compassion.

Surgeon: While AI can assist, the precision, adaptability, and critical decision-making in complex surgeries still demand human expertise.

Creative Artist (e.g., Painter, Musician, Writer): Original artistic creation relies on human imagination, emotional depth, and cultural context that AI struggles to match.

Clergy/Spiritual Leader: Providing spiritual guidance and emotional support rooted in personal faith and human connection is inherently human.

Early Childhood Educator: Nurturing young children involves emotional bonding, intuition, and adaptability that AI cannot fully emulate.

High-Level Strategist (e.g., CEO, Policy Maker): Setting vision, navigating ambiguous human dynamics, and making high-stakes decisions require human intuition and leadership.

Field Researcher (e.g., Anthropologist, Wildlife Biologist): Conducting hands-on research in unpredictable environments demands human adaptability and contextual understanding.

Artisan/Craftsperson (e.g., Custom Furniture Maker): Handcrafted work requiring unique skill, creativity, and tactile expertise is hard for AI to replicate.

Emergency First Responder (e.g., Firefighter, Paramedic): Quick, life-or-death decisions in chaotic, unpredictable situations rely on human courage and situational awareness.


Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:53 pm to
I think people won’t have specialized long term career arcs anymore … people have multiple intense short term careers throughout their lives

the real horrible part is our education system is already so broken and performs poorly setting people up for current career success…how do we pivot education and educators to start teaching AI? this pivot is going to happen to way slowly at the bloated education department level, teachers aren’t smart enough to teach it…and don’t even start with low performing inner city schools.

parents are going to have to teach young kids these skills themselves…the weird thing is AI itself can be used to set up to help you teach it too
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
483 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:07 pm to
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It will be interesting. I have one starting college pretty soon and I'm struggling a little with how to guide her


I'm a couple of years behind you bud. Oldest daughter is starting HS in the fall. She's really freaking smart - much smarter than myself or my wife. And I'm already thinking about what advice and guidance we will need to give her in just a couple of years.
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:07 pm to
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people have multiple intense short term careers throughout their lives


Have you seen any job postings lately? Let alone what is considered "entry-level"?

5+ years experience needed for entry level roles. How does one get experience without getting a role?

So you think people are just going to be able to adapt to multiple short-term careers? bruh, we can't even get a job right now
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6307 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:10 pm to
Most of these aren’t desired now so what’s to say they will be prevalent in future lol
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80325 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:15 pm to
Use to be you could say that sex worker would be safe.

But with the sexbots they are working on, I'm not sure that is safe.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57015 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:16 pm to
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Layoffs happening across all companies due to AI,


Where? How many?
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10172 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Most of these aren’t desired now so what’s to say they will be prevalent in future lol



They'll probably be more desired when/if they are the only jobs paying.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53132 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:22 pm to
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I hate the idea of UBI on principle.

I do too but what do we do if we get to a point where we have 25% unemployment or something crazy like that? I think we are decades away from this though. These things always take way longer to come true than predicted.
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:22 pm to
Intel

I mean, this happened yesterday
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
71148 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:23 pm to
Im not underestimating it. Advancement in technology has shifted where humans were useful for all of our history. AI is technology, just like the cotton gin and the internal combustion engine and arc welding.

Also, you cant underestimate human resistance to replacement.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6307 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:24 pm to
We need a true revolt and take down the multi billionaires and corps
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10172 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:26 pm to
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We need a true revolt and take down the multi billionaires and corps



OK Bernie.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5095 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:27 pm to

AI is definitely destroying my job. It's doing 50% of the work my project team was doing less than 10 years ago and it would probably be more if not for legacy clients and projects. We also outsource stuff to India to smooth out the rough patches in AI. We haven't hired anybody new in 7 or 8 years. People just leave, get laid off, die or retire and are never replaced. The work flows get smaller and smaller too and the clients expect to pay less and less.

The superstars will get to hang around and "manage" the AI but the rest of us are probably toast. Not sure what I'm going to do as my job is niche specific. Maybe I can learn how to be a TV/VCR repairman. They still need those, right?
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6307 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:28 pm to
Each hvac will have 10 repairmen at this point
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10172 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:30 pm to
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I do too but what do we do if we get to a point where we have 25% unemployment or something crazy like that? I think we are decades away from this though. These things always take way longer to come true than predicted.



I think jobs will change but still be available. It's definitely interesting. I have a job that is both writing-intensive and relationship-based. I use AI every single day to write stuff for me but the interpersonal relationship piece could never be replaced by AI.
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
2671 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:30 pm to
And people said peepers were fools. Teach your kids how to hunt and fish (this should have already happened), small engine repair. Theses are thing you can do as fun and does not hurt anyone ore sound an alarm. These are thing you should have already been doing for your kids regardless of AI.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38481 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Fareplay



Don't even read just downvote.
Posted by Liger43
Member since Sep 2019
643 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:31 pm to
Always said anarchy and the collapse of the government is the only way to true reform.
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