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re: How many grown men would it take to physically restrain a gorilla?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:26 pm to Rep520
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:26 pm to Rep520
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How realistic is it that your men fully commit to taking down the gorilla in the face of imminent death.
well the question ISN'T how many men would try to physically restrain a gorilla before giving up is it? It's how many would it take to subdue one. No other factors are involved except no weapons.
I think people underestimate what being overpowered is...a group of men intent on restraining a gorilla aren't going to go 3 on 1 like a kung fu movie...they are going to bum rush the gorilla and get it on the ground.
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:32 pm to Topwater Trout
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they are going to bum rush the gorilla and get it on the ground.
The gorilla is faster, can jump higher, more balanced, and more agile than anyone bum rushing it.
This just wouldn't work. The first few guys that get close are as good as dead and anyone that tries to grab his extremities is getting bit by massive fangs and/or pulled apart by his other arm.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:35 pm to Topwater Trout
Psychology plays a major role in fights. I don't know why it wouldn't factor in here.
I agree it's not going to be one at a time like a movie, but I think the pro human crowd underestimates that the gorilla isn't gonna stand there and get rushed. The gorilla can charge, move, bite and swing on people.
If the gorilla starts flailing, anyone who takes a glancing blow is out. Taking out the gorilla fast requires people to simultaneously control all limbs and the head. If you have 3 guys on one arm and the other free, the gorilla's just gonna crack those 3 guys's heads and free up both arms.
I agree it's not going to be one at a time like a movie, but I think the pro human crowd underestimates that the gorilla isn't gonna stand there and get rushed. The gorilla can charge, move, bite and swing on people.
If the gorilla starts flailing, anyone who takes a glancing blow is out. Taking out the gorilla fast requires people to simultaneously control all limbs and the head. If you have 3 guys on one arm and the other free, the gorilla's just gonna crack those 3 guys's heads and free up both arms.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:38 pm to Rep520
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If the gorilla starts flailing, anyone who takes a glancing blow is out. Taking out the gorilla fast requires people to simultaneously control all limbs and the head. If you have 3 guys on one arm and the other free, the gorilla's just gonna crack those 3 guys's heads and free up both arms.
Exactly. And no one is putting one of these things in any sort of head lock, so he'll most likely be free to bite the entire time.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
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It would be like punching wet sand.
Well, except for that fact that wet sand wouldn't respond by pulling your arms off like you'd pull the wings off of a fly.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
The answer to this question is how many men does the gorilla kill before he's so tired he can't fight anymore.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:43 pm to Topwater Trout
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they are going to bum rush the gorilla and get it on the ground.
only so many men can get to the gorilla at one time. anyone piling on top of another guy will add weight, but completely render that guy useless besides being deadweight
if they bum rushed him, he could charge and power through the first 4 or 5 without flinching. they can reach top speed very quick so it would essentially be a 500lb+ bowling ball going through the first 5 or so guys like they were toddlers
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:43 pm to eScott
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The answer to this question is how many men does the gorilla kill before he's so tired he can't fight anymore.
Exactly.
And I can't speak to their endurance, but they are mammals that are biologically very similar to humans, but have the ability to survive in the jungle and climb trees and shite, so I assume its pretty good.
Eventually they'd suffer from exhaustion and that would be the end. Just depends on how many bodies are piled up before that point.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:48 pm to ShortyRob
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They say Gorillas are at least 6 times stronger and possibly up to 15x than an athletic male human.
There are males that can curl 100lbs and this is before you consider that the focus of a Gorilla's strength is in its arms. So, crazy as it sounds, 600 seems pretty friggin feasible.
6 to 15 is pretty significant range. There’s no actual science behind those estimates. Any “science” you see is speculation. No one has ever actually tested to see how strong they are relative to humans.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:49 pm to Deactived
Unless his attention is already pummeling someone and a dozen other guys can come up behind him all focused in on their singular goal. Holding the left leg or right arm. Drop a few guys on top of him from an elevated position to further occupy/stun him and you have something there.
The strength is the question here. Strategy is clearly in favor with man. And the idea of the man not being motivated, that’s pointless for this hypothetical. Just tell the guys your family will be murdered if you lose. So there, all the humans are good to fight to the death.
Again, the question is restrain a gorilla. Not kill with bare hands. 20 men of the right size and athletic ability can restrain a gorilla for a bit when the right plan is executed
The strength is the question here. Strategy is clearly in favor with man. And the idea of the man not being motivated, that’s pointless for this hypothetical. Just tell the guys your family will be murdered if you lose. So there, all the humans are good to fight to the death.
Again, the question is restrain a gorilla. Not kill with bare hands. 20 men of the right size and athletic ability can restrain a gorilla for a bit when the right plan is executed
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:51 pm to Rep520
We should bump this thread against the "could ray rice beat up Rhonda Rousey" thread
There was alot of posters, I mean alot, that said size and strength mean nothing, it is all about technique and "ground game".
I wonder if they would agree with a male UFC fighter vs a gorilla
There was alot of posters, I mean alot, that said size and strength mean nothing, it is all about technique and "ground game".
I wonder if they would agree with a male UFC fighter vs a gorilla
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:52 pm to Topwater Trout
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hey are going to bum rush the gorilla and get it on the ground
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:52 pm to kciDAtaE
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Drop a few guys on top of him from an elevated position to further occupy/stun him and you have something there.
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that’s pointless for this hypothetical.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:57 pm to kciDAtaE
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Drop a few guys on top of him from an elevated position to further occupy/stun him and you have something there.
Drop The People's Elbow on him and he's finished.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:00 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Let's take fear out of it. I am going to say 56 coked-up or suicidal guys who had strategized and practiced could restrain a gorilla through sheer weight of numbers. This battle takes place in a big open field with room to maneuver.
8 guys make a ring evenly spaced around the gorilla, and approach slowly until they about 20 feet away. 2 feet behind the first ring is another ring of 16 more big guys. 2 feet behind the second ring is another ring of 32 big guys. Assume the gorilla holds his ground until the first ring is 20 feet away. Humor me.
On a command, all 56 guys collapse as quickly as possible on the gorilla. The first ring of guys just try to crush onto the gorilla's arms and legs from all sides, grab hold, and push. The second ring of 16 guys just push on the guys in the first ring from behind, 2 guys pushing each inner guy, even if the guys in front are getting smashed. Third ring is 2 guys pushing each guy in the second ring. If they do knock the gorilla down, then just dog pile as fast as possible and lock on anywhere you can.
It would be mayhem. In the real world, the gorilla probably just blows through any point it picks in all 3 lines and runs.
So, would it work, and how many guys would die?
8 guys make a ring evenly spaced around the gorilla, and approach slowly until they about 20 feet away. 2 feet behind the first ring is another ring of 16 more big guys. 2 feet behind the second ring is another ring of 32 big guys. Assume the gorilla holds his ground until the first ring is 20 feet away. Humor me.
On a command, all 56 guys collapse as quickly as possible on the gorilla. The first ring of guys just try to crush onto the gorilla's arms and legs from all sides, grab hold, and push. The second ring of 16 guys just push on the guys in the first ring from behind, 2 guys pushing each inner guy, even if the guys in front are getting smashed. Third ring is 2 guys pushing each guy in the second ring. If they do knock the gorilla down, then just dog pile as fast as possible and lock on anywhere you can.
It would be mayhem. In the real world, the gorilla probably just blows through any point it picks in all 3 lines and runs.
So, would it work, and how many guys would die?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:08 pm to TigerCoon
Is this one of those gorillas who speaks sign language and does he have access to a legit training camp?
Important variable, IMO.
Important variable, IMO.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:21 pm to Deactived
An average male silver back weighs anywhere from 400-500 pounds. Yes there are some that are much much larger (600-700) but those are quite rare.
The only way this works is by having, as someone else said, dozens of crazed men launch themselves at it until it tires out.
Or maybe a couple of the strongest men in the world. Guys like Halfthor and Eddie Hall themselves weigh 400 pounds. Those guys are so strong they bench 500 pounds (weight of a gorilla) with ease. A gorilla has short legs and they can’t stand up for very long. Also pushing isn’t their best aspect (pulling is). So a half dozen of them would have to knock it down on its back and push or sit on its back. To knock it down they would have to approach from all sides, throw dirt, in its face, and push it from behind.
The only way this works is by having, as someone else said, dozens of crazed men launch themselves at it until it tires out.
Or maybe a couple of the strongest men in the world. Guys like Halfthor and Eddie Hall themselves weigh 400 pounds. Those guys are so strong they bench 500 pounds (weight of a gorilla) with ease. A gorilla has short legs and they can’t stand up for very long. Also pushing isn’t their best aspect (pulling is). So a half dozen of them would have to knock it down on its back and push or sit on its back. To knock it down they would have to approach from all sides, throw dirt, in its face, and push it from behind.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:30 pm to Topwater Trout
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meanwhile men would be attacking him from all sides
How many mean would he ever have to face at once though? Shoulder to shoulder you could probably put, at best, 10 men in a circle around a gorilla? Their wingspan is 8.5 feet long. I don't see a scenario where people could react fast enough to counter the moves of the gorilla while in a group.
The gorilla would eventually lose if the manpower was unlimited, but it would be due to shear exhaustion, and that won't happen with just 20 men.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:43 pm to slackster
Of course, lost in all this is assuming the humans are successful, who volunteers to be the last guy off the gorilla?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 3:46 pm to Rep520
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the gorilla isn't gonna stand there and get rushed. The gorilla can charge, move, bite and swing on people.
People here act like shear numbers will have no effect on the gorilla and that's just preposterous. Humans can still use their brains to overtake the gorilla. If they corner the gorilla but give him enough room to pace back and forth for a while it will tire itself out at some point.
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