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re: How life became an endless, terrible competition.

Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:30 am to
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:30 am to
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Competition=Human nature


Yes. We evolved to be what we are because of competition. Intra-species competition has made us the most dominant creature ever to live.

Modern humans drove the other human races into extinction by competing with them for resources. We also won the race of reproduction.

These competitive characteristics have brought us to a danger point. We reproduce so prolifically and use such a variety of resources that we face a catastrophic collapse of our species.

Resources are finite but our lust to reproduce has no brakes. The irony of overpopulation as the reason for our downfall would be almost poetic if we weren’t taking down so many other species with us.
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:41 pm to
tldr
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Yes, it is all quite a highly choreographed illusion. Credentialism and materialism extremis. I see it collapse on people in their fifth or sixth decade and they stand there asking WTF.

i'm going to read the article later but i assume i've effectively read it before. here is the issue these article have: they don't acknowledge that in a meritocracy you're free to set your own limits

if you want to be the alpha/elite guy grinding (and hopefully getting the various rewards of those choices), you can

if you want to have a more manageable life and sacrifice some prestige/earning/status, you can

these articles always assume everyone has to be lumped into the alpha/elite category while ignoring we can set our levels
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Nothing makes me want to put my head through a wall more than being around a bunch of professional types who all want to try and one-up each other as to how much they work and how "busy" they are.

i can't remember the exact podcast, but i heard somebody talk about how these people have turned "being busy" into a commodity
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35053 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:53 pm to
I work with a girl that is about 3 years out of college. She walks around gleefully telling everyone how many hours she is in meetings or that she worked all weekend, never takes lunch breaks, etc. What an annoying twit.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6915 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Yeah if I could go back, I’d be a high school science teacher and coach basketball and be happy making 40k and getting 3 months off every summer


If you did that in Minnesota, you would double that salary.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:44 am to
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I have yet to see 65-75 year olds out water skiing after having put off such activities to secure their executive rise in corporate America.


My grandad ski’d into his 80s.

he retired from his inherited car dealership at 55. Walked 3 miles daily and fished all the time for 30 years.

He did it right but was gifted that life from his father, admittedly. Having said that we all have choices. He could’ve been more ambitious, worked himself 20 more years and 60 hour weeks, expanding and whatnot. Chose more of a life of leisure.
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:45 am to
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She walks around gleefully telling everyone how many hours she is in meetings or that she worked all weekend, never takes lunch breaks, etc. What an annoying twit.


The corporate version of virtue signaling.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Nothing makes me want to put my head through a wall more than being around a bunch of professional types who all want to try and one-up each other as to how much they work and how "busy" they are.


Yep.

Always makes me laugh when I meet up with friends from law school and they're "bragging" about putting in insano hours and "grinding"


Like, that's fricking awesome man. I'm not doing any of that shite and I'm in the exact same spot you are so congrats?
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37277 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 1:36 pm to
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I work with a girl that is about 3 years out of college. She walks around gleefully telling everyone how many hours she is in meetings or that she worked all weekend, never takes lunch breaks, etc. What an annoying twit.


She'll burn out soon
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 3:51 pm to
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Yeah if I could go back, I’d be a high school science teacher and coach basketball and be happy making 40k and getting 3 months off every summer


No HS coach worth a shite takes 3 months off during the summer
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 3:59 pm to
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they don't acknowledge that in a meritocracy you're free to set your own limits


And they, without doubt, love the benefits these high end producers produce in our market meritocracy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:02 pm to
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The irony of overpopulation as the reason for our downfall would be almost poetic if we weren’t taking down so many other species with us.


We are facing a population collapse. We are not overpopulated
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35146 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:04 pm to
AKA "keeping up with the Joneses"

Good thread. Quite pervasive issue in our society.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49479 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Eat or be eaten


That makes no sense..


If you are at all able to be eaten, there is a good chance you will be. Whether you eat or not.

Matter of fact..if I was going to eat you, I'd wat till you ate. That's like a free extra meal for me too.


Now if its bedroom talk..
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:17 pm to
I found the author reeaaally stretched statistics to make his “point.” I feel like he’s equivalent to a skyscreamer, as the only alternative system is basically a lottery. I don’t begrudge those who choose to work longer or in a different field making more than I do.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:18 pm to
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How life became an endless, terrible competition.


I read this a few weeks ago
Great read

Summed up in pics/memes:







This toxicity is passed onto children in many forms:

More aggressive curriculum (less play/movement)
More dependency on tech (less conversation/empathy)
“Travel sports” (be the “best” at any expense (to family life or body/overuse injury)

Like a cancer, we are grossly out of balance, unchecked, and metastasizing

A big WTF moment is headed our way...


Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35146 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:23 pm to
Pretty good there. Certain levels of possessions and ability to participate in certain things has become the measure of self-value. And family value. And the cycle never really stops bc once those levels of possessions and participation are attained....newer and further bars are set, usually based on what everyone else is getting or about to get.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120302 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:25 pm to
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To be clear, I actually think most such folks are full of shite. It's just the mindset of feeling like one needs to constantly project such a thing that makes it just as, if not more depressing, than if there were being completely truthful.



There are people who have jobs in which they legit stay busy, buy there is also a lot of people who always talk about how busy they are at work.. and knowing what they do.. I think somehow they convince themselves they are busy and want other people to think they are busy because if people actually knew what they do at work, they wouldn't really be the "hard working" person they perceive themselves to be.

This is just an example, but I know someone who is the manager of his department, makes a pretty good living.. He has to be at work early to make sure his people are all there and everyone is with the crew they are supposed to be with and all safety protocols are met.

If there is a problem in the field they contact him, but other than that he bullshits around until the crews comes in for the day. And everytime I talk to him I ask what has been going on and he says the same thing "Work! That's all it seems like I do!".
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35146 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:29 pm to
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And everytime I talk to him I ask what has been going on and he says the same thing "Work! That's all it seems like I do!".

I hate that. Few things are more annoying.

The ability to announce such exaggerations to a much larger audience has been made possible with social media. Facebook and status updates especially.
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