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re: How is the OT Going to Vote on THRIVE?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:30 pm to HouseMom
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:30 pm to HouseMom
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And I'm sure right after this passes the good old tax assessor is going to determine all of our homes are worth more money, so our property taxes can go up next year to help the library, COA, etc. recoup this loss
Probably going to do that regardless
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:20 pm to kingbob
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But why increase taxes when the libraries, COA, and other entities are already overfunded?
Because those funds were collected parish wide and being used for the benefit of one city in the parish, BR.
Put it this way, would you like the library fund raided to help Zachary or Central?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:23 pm to teke184
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The exact amount hasn’t been determined by the courts or an agreement between StG and BR over transition, IIRC.
Oh but there is an agreement, IF this passes. That’s why St George mayor is for it. St George wants it’s money and this is how they will get it by supporting a raid on the library, COA, and mosquito fund.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:25 pm to HouseMom
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And I'm sure right after this passes the good old tax assessor is going to determine all of our homes are worth more money, so our property taxes can go up next year to help the library, COA, etc. recoup this loss.
Yup or the library will cry in a couple years that their fund is decreasing and need a supplemental tax to shore it up.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:42 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Oh but there is an agreement, IF this passes. That’s why St George mayor is for it. St George wants it’s money and this is how they will get it by supporting a raid on the library, COA, and mosquito fund.
show some proof of this please.
This is what the library millage is being used for:
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2.8 mills of the annual millage will be re-allocated to the City-Parish General Fund for “Parish General Purposes,” with a net $16.24 Million to be applied annually to parish-wide Infrastructure needs for the Stormwater Master Plan and Street Maintenance Projects
Now it does say it's going into the "City-Parish" general fund, but then states it will be applied annually to those two projects. That's from the EBR Thrive plan
The actual proposition when we go vote states:
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proceeds heretofore and hereafter received from 2.80 mills of the Tax shall be used for Parish-wide general purposes (after paying reasonable and necessary expenses of collecting and administering the Tax)?
Is it written in law somewhere that they have to spend the 2.8 mills annually for the Stormwater Master Plan and Street Maintenance Projects?
The proposition just says it will be used for parish wide general purposes, which means it's going into the City-Parish General Fund where it can be used for whatever the hell they want. Now they have come out and said what they will use it on, and are specific with it, but are they actually going to use it for what they say they are going to use it for, and are they going to keep doing it the way they said for 10 years straight? Is there anything legally making them use it on those two projects?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:43 pm to UptownJoeBrown
You guys are just making stuff up now.
The SG deal isn’t settled. The propositions shift money to the parish for necessary parish wide services and to pay down debt.
But if SG was getting 58 million dollars to settle the debt, how is that a bad thing for SG?
The SG deal isn’t settled. The propositions shift money to the parish for necessary parish wide services and to pay down debt.
But if SG was getting 58 million dollars to settle the debt, how is that a bad thing for SG?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:15 pm to doubleb
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My question is why is the Library funding sports fields and botanical gardens. That’s not in their realm of responsibility.
Are you sure those sports fields and botanical gardens are not part of BREC?
They likely are a part of BREC. I'm not saying the library is funding it; I'm saying that having a main library of the caliber we have at the center of sports fields and gardens is the type of thing you generally see in larger cities and is a great thing for us to have.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:15 pm to kingbob
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But why increase taxes when the libraries, COA, and other entities are already overfunded?
First of all, i don't care if the city of BR has to increase taxes to pay for their own essential needs. that's not the problem of those outside the city.
Why can't we simply reassess the taxes that the library and COA need? That's what this renewal was supposed to be until they decided to try to reallocate money from the new renewals.
I'd rather vote no to renewing both of those taxes.
The library doesn't need 11.1 mills to operate, nor do they need 8.3 mills. And I say that knowing our libraries are really great, and they are probably one of the best run gov't departments in this parish.
The COA doesn't need 2.25 mills to operate, nor do they need 2.0 mills.
I'd be 100% ok with voting yes to a property wide tax that was dedicated to the storm water master plan and street maintenance projects. Hell that's something they should have done in 2017ish right after the flood. Would have passed with flying colors.
although i do have to ask why are we having to pay for street projects again? the parish voted yes for a half cent sales tax, which is expected to generate $1B for 30 years in the MOVEBR plan that started in 2019.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:21 pm to Joshjrn
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They likely are a part of BREC. I'm not saying the library is funding it; I'm saying that having a main library of the caliber we have at the center of sports fields and gardens is the type of thing you generally see in larger cities and is a great thing for us to have.
I can’t say you are wrong, it’s a very nice area.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Now they have come out and said what they will use it on, and are specific with it, but are they actually going to use it for what they say they are going to use it for, and are they going to keep doing it the way they said for 10 years straight?
So why don’t they actually put this in the proposition? Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:04 pm to doubleb
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to pay down debt.
The debt is St George.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:04 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:Not true. No matter how many times a lie is repeated it's still a lie.
Because those funds were collected parish wide and being used for the benefit of one city in the parish, BR.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:13 pm to TeddyPadillac
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although i do have to ask why are we having to pay for street projects again?
Because governments are never satisfied. They want more and more and more.
If they could rob the library fund without a vote they would. This is one of the reasons why you have dedicated millages. It’s so these politicians can’t steal it for other uses. Well, not without us voting for it.
In this case a parish wide collected tax is partly going to the city of BR to shore up their wasteful spending. That’s the issue. Parish wide taxes for parish wide issues. Cities pays for their own issues.
The City/Parish government needs to end ASAP. You get BR robbing everyone else to pay for THEIR issues.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:14 pm to LSURussian
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Not true. No matter how many times a lie is repeated it's still a lie.
OK part of it. Does it make it less slimy? Nope
ETA: I actually put in partly in my post above to prevent anyone saying it’s not true but then they never say why it’s not true or that it’s partly true. Hmmmmm
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:16 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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The City/Parish government needs to end ASAP. You get BR robbing everyone else to pay for THEIR issues.
Weird that the mayors of the incorporated cities aren't calling for de-consolidation, and when asked about it directly, give mealy mouthed non-committal answers.
You'd think they'd care more about their cities being robbed
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:19 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:You have already proven in this thread that you make up fantasies to fit your paranoid narrative no matter how ridiculously untrue the fantasies are.
UptownJoeBrown
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:47 pm to LSURussian
You got blinders on and/or naive and/or a mouthpiece to pass this chief.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:03 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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In this case a parish wide collected tax is partly going to the city of BR to shore up their wasteful spending. That’s the issue. Parish wide taxes for parish wide issues. Cities pays for their own issues.
You do realize that these taxes which are collected parish wide are collected from BR too? Don’t act as if BR doesn’t pay property taxes becauss they do.
The taxes were voted on and passed by the people. The people can vote to use the revenues collected in other ways if they believe that there are better things to do now with these tax dollars.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:29 pm to doubleb
The City-Parish needs to end. I hope it fails.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:37 pm to doubleb
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The property tax to fund the library system is expiring. A no vote ends the tax and cuts the library funding out; however, there is still time for another vote.
If the other two propositions fail, the current taxes will stay in place. They aren’t set to expire soon.
I think I’m voting no on the library tax since it’s a renewal
I’ll vote yes on the other 2 since I’ll be paying it anyway
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