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re: How important is it for you to own a gun?

Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:51 am to
Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:51 am to
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I would think most of our standard hunting guns today are basically scaled back versions of what used to be military grade weaponry of the past.


I would say otherwise. The gun tech of the 1800's was pretty bad. Big, bulky, single shot weapons with poor accuracy. Reading about the Western expansion and Wars with native Americans gives the impression that early cavalry weaponry was a disadvantage compared to the primitive weapons of the horse tribes.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:51 am to
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The question is what type of gun is permitted.


Why don't you Google fricking search that and find out.

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There are already laws limiting the types, so this is a matter of deciding what types are becoming too great a threat to the public in the wrong hands.



And in your opinion, the way a gun looks should be a deciding factor?

I honestly can't figure out if you're trolling or if you really are this fricking retarded...
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:51 am to
so much assault in one post
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:53 am to
Felt important when I lived in the ghetto that is Louisiana. Not so much now that I live in the beautiful state of Colorado
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:53 am to
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I am asking why you need a weapon that is designed for military use but been scaled back from fully automatic to semi automatic?


Let's stop on the word "need" - because I don't "need" anything to survive and thrive except food, water and shelter. So, there are LOTS of things we don't "need."

So, the better question is: Why do I, Ace Midnight, choose semi-automatic weapons, almost to the exclusion of all others?

1. I was trained to use the M-16 as a uniformed service member of the United States of America. Those skills and experience translate almost perfectly to the AR-15 platform.

2. I have no idea what the future threat profiles are. Therefore, I select weapons based on a highly flexible response to what very well may be an evolving threat to my family's safety in the future.

3. Semi-automatic pistols and rifles are among the best choices for self defense. There are more options for customization. They are, generally, the most pleasant to fire. This is important because developing skill with the weapon is key to it being an effective self-defense choice.


I don't tell you what kind of house to live in or what kind of car to drive. Why should I, as a sovereign citizen of an ostensibly free nation have to take mandatory advice on what weapon I should choose to defend myself and my family? That's rightly dismissed as nonsense.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 8:55 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17328 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:54 am to
No. I am asking a question. Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport? I get you like to expend brass. I get that you get off on the power it gives you. There are truly evil people in the world who have a tactical application that leaves a wake of dead bodies. It is a greater good ethic. The few who enjoy AR are not greater than the whole of society.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:54 am to
and you would be wrong
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66538 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:55 am to
I lost all my guns in Katrina.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:55 am to
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he few who enjoy AR are not greater than the whole of society.
this is an extremist view but as i said, wouldn't make me or break me.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:57 am to
How are AR-15's not self defense weapons?
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 8:58 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:57 am to
Then change your thread title to "How important is it for you to own an assault weapon".

I live in South Louisiana where I am a minority and there is a lot of crime. Hell, a home invasion right up the street just a few months ago.

I also like to hunt.

That is reason enough.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96252 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:57 am to
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Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport?


Almost every small arm has a self-defense, recreational or sporting use.

ARs are highly customized and used for 3-gun competitions.

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I get that you get off on the power it gives you.


Your bias borders on disgusting.

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There are truly evil people in the world who have a tactical application that leaves a wake of dead bodies.


Why would you be okay with Iran having tanks, planes, nuclear missiles, but you don't want me to have a rifle?

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The few who enjoy AR are not greater than the whole of society.


Self-defense is a natural right. Keep and bear arms is a protected, constitutional right (for now.)
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1495 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:58 am to
Keep on stoking it...

You are ignoring simple, sane reasons given by members of the forum. Your intent is obvious and your stupidity is also.

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No. I am asking a question. Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport? I get you like to expend brass. I get that you get off on the power it gives you. There are truly evil people in the world who have a tactical application that leaves a wake of dead bodies. It is a greater good ethic. The few who enjoy AR are not greater than the whole of society.

Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
10308 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:58 am to
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No. I am asking a question. Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport? I get you like to expend brass. I get that you get off on the power it gives you. There are truly evil people in the world who have a tactical application that leaves a wake of dead bodies. It is a greater good ethic. The few who enjoy AR are not greater than the whole of society.


Your myopic view prevents you from seeing the precedent you are setting. We don't NEED "Assault" weapons just like we don't need fast cars, stronger alcohol proofs, or 4k HDTV's.

Your ok with limiting weapons because you don't see any value and only the negatives, but what's to stop the government from intruding on something you hold dear in the future?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:59 am to
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Why do we need weapons that are not for self defense nor sport?


The AR platform has become one of the most popular sport shooting rifles due to the vast assortment of accessories that can be used to modify them to a particular shooters needs.

It has also become one of the most widely used platforms for hog hunting since the hog overpopulation issue has exploded in the last few years.

Just because you, a functioning retard, don't see the "need" for something doesn't mean it's not necessary. I don't see the need for motorized carts at grocery stores... but then again I don't use them.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96252 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:59 am to
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Then change your thread title to "How important is it for you to own an assault weapon".


No. He is shockingly honest with the title. The "other side" of this issue wants complete disarmament. Don't listen to anything else, because it is nonsense for them to argue anything else.

"Assault weapons" is just part of their propaganda. "High capacity" magazine bans are part of this, too. They want an elimination of any weapon that can be effective in a collective self-defense situation. They'll just take the rest out of spite.

It is over when we turn in our rifles. That's just a fact.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2582 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:59 am to
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I would say otherwise. The gun tech of the 1800's was pretty bad.


Quick google search:

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In fact, the hist­ory of rifle hunting begins with turning military technology into practical peacetime uses.


LINK
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:00 am to
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The few who enjoy AR are not greater than the whole of society.


Although I believe the AR to be a good platform, I do not believe banning just that type of gun will somehow reduce deaths. I can set up many different guns to operate as "efficiently" as an AR platform. AR is the best for field use for a variety of reasons and why the military uses it, but I can set up a hunting gun to shoot just as fast and get through one murder spree if I suddenly couldn't put my hands on an AR. Banning them because of the way they look compared to military guns is stupid.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:00 am to
who the frick keeps downvoting my posts? I'm not advocating taking your weapons. I am giving my personal opinion about my weapons.

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11967 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 9:01 am to
Not even a 1/10... .001/10
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