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re: How FHA has prevented foreclosures. Video of one example of a mortgage not paid in 5 years

Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:58 am to
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:58 am to
So of all total mortgage loans made, FHA makes 25% of that number.
Of their 25%, 7% of those are seriously delinquent.

Any to know the real dollar %, given that FHA loans are generally lower-priced homes?

I'm not disagreeing with your knowledge of the topic, I'm just wondering if it's a big % of total mortgage dollars loaned.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:59 am to
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Inventory still low, new construction costs are insane, no crash.


Yea, my post is clearly outlining a huge reason for this. The Gov has taken away a whole part of the market which creates low inventory and keeps demand high.

Did the OP go over your head or something?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:59 am to
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Inventory still low

The 7M homes referenced in his OP may have something to do with that
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:01 am to
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7% of those are seriously delinquent.


No you read that wrong. 7% of FHA loans made just last year went seriously delinquent within 12 months meaning 7% of those loans are people buying houses and just not paying for them.
Posted by tigeralum06
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:03 am to
LIHTC is not free money. It’s a deal with the devil.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:05 am to
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LIHTC is not free money. It’s a deal with the devil.


Oh I know but the fact is that billions are handed out yearly for it
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:14 am to
Ok, so in the past 12 months 7% of FHA loans are basically in foreclosure, not 7% of total FHA loans...

I'm still curious if this number(bad/foreclosures), even combined with VA loan issues, is enough to affect the overall mortgage market.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:23 am to
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higher DTI just becomes the new standard.


Its been the standard since 2010
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:24 am to
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Ok, so in the past 12 months 7% of FHA loans are basically in foreclosure


Just 7% of loans issued last year. If you go back to loans issued since 2022 that number grows to 17%

I have seen estimates that currently over 1 million FHA-backed mortgages are in some stage of default but not foreclosure

If that number is true, it's a large enough number to prop up the market and create shortages but not large enough to make a 2008 level crash happen.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:25 am to
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Its been the standard since 2010


I like how we just blew right past 43% and that is totally OK now
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:27 am to
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I like how we just blew right past 43% and that is totally OK now


Its been a 46.99% front end since forever. Conv goes to 49%

This isnt something new. Then the years of stated income. So we are on like 25yrs

All they are doing is giving ppl hud mods and putting them on the home as silent seconds
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:28 am to
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Trump hasn't addressed it, nor does anyone think he will.

Just like he won't touch other "third rail" subjects like SS/Medicare.



It's been, what, 90 days?
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:38 am to
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Read something yesterday that the mean age of current renters skyrocketed from low 30's (32/33) to 42!


Say I’m 45 with solid equity in my home. I think the bubble will burst.

Why not sell now, rent for a year or two, then buy back in when the market collapses?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:42 am to
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Its been a 46.99% front end since forever. Conv goes to 49%


Yes I understand what the lending limits are but as my thread from the other day showed people are living well beyond that

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All they are doing is giving ppl hud mods and putting them on the home as silent seconds


Yes. Propping up the market
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:45 am to
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lending limits are


You mean debt to income

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Yes. Propping up the market


I guess
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:29 am to
Is it "not paying" or "shifting payments to the back"? I thought it was the latter.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:37 am to
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No you read that wrong. 7% of FHA loans made just last year went seriously delinquent within 12 months meaning 7% of those loans are people buying houses and just not paying for them.
How is that possible, when it hasn’t been 12 months since most of last year's loans originated?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:53 am to
I agrer that's significant, but assuming even 50% ended up in foreclosure, as a % of dollar-value of overall mortgage loans, compared to conventional mortgages, it's not a panic #.

Now if you start seeing 10-15% of the overall market in some form of default, then panic
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